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Wednesday, October 23, 2013

Plato's Beard (16,2)

Hey guys,
Really sorry if it was my turn (we probably should talk about that today).
Anyway, our group discussed a number of things, starting with identity and the question of the ship.
We all agreed it is the same ship after having all its parts replaced, but we were divided on if memory determines identity, or whether a person is the same or not if they lose their memory.
We also discussed the ideas od pantheism and speculated on the ramifications of a central godlike force that encompasses everything.
See you later,


  1. Your groups conversation was very lively on Monday, i might just have to move over there for a day.

    1. Chelsea 16-112:14 PM CDT

      Okay I'll remember you're the floater for today! No more nose goes lol

  2. Damon 16-1

    In our group also discussed the ship replacing its parts. We discussed how our bodies replace and regenerate cells, so are we the same people we were 20 years ago?

  3. (16-2) Yea, I suppose I'll do the next group summary; sorry about that.
    FQ: Which Irish philosopher also served as the Bishop of Cloyne? (George Berkeley)
    DQ: George Berkeley believed that there is no physical world and that things only existed in people's minds. If this is what you believed, how do you determine what is real?
    Descartes and ethics: http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/descartes-ethics/

  4. Anonymous11:27 AM CDT

    abigail jones (16,3)

    my group really needs to work on putting up posts earlier so I'm writing on yours.

    FQ: who was an irish philosopher who became known as bishop of cloyone? george berkeley

    DQ: do you think the light goes off on a fridge door when it is closed? or your room vanishes when you arent in it? Why or why not?


  5. Taylore (16-2)11:32 AM CDT

    Hey guys as next week is vastly approaching, we should definitely discuss not only the situation with rotating authors but who's going to take responsibility of composing 10 FQ's for the next exam. This should be first order of business once we get into our discussion groups.

    FQ: Berkeley was a _________ because he denied that material things exist? Immaterialist
    DQ: In regards to Berkeley's theory of object existance, would you consider him to be an skeptic?

  6. I'm not sure what your group settled on or how the discussion went, but I personally do not believe that people are the same once they lose their memory. I think that you're memory and past experiences are what make you who you are, just as much as your DNA even. Everything that happens in your life has the ability to change who you are, how you act, and how the future plays out.

    - Jami (17.3)

  7. I see pantheism as an interesting idea. It's kinda beautiful in a sense. It states that every item or piece of matter in the universe is connected into one giant entity. It is not so much saying that there is a god, but rather the universe functions as its own god. The universe is infinite and maintains a very intense balance. I could see the universe as functioning like a god more so than believe in a single god who is running the show from a separate plan of existence.