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Monday, October 28, 2013

A-Team 16-1

Today we talked about Rousseau and the thought that civilization does tend to make people act differently. Damon used the analogy of 10 rats being in a cage together compared to 10 million rats being in a cage together. You can assume some chaos is going to break. The same thing is true with humans. 


  1. (16-2) Rousseau seems to be positive about humankind; I also enjoyed your use of large print, catches the eye.

  2. Great analogy. With our population growing exponentially, violence is bound to become more common. Based on that assumption, one's to wonder where the worlds headed.

    FQ: Who was born in Dublin? (Burke)
    DQ: Could politicians today be considered philosophers?


  3. Austin Duke9:43 PM CDT

    (16-1)This is exactly why there has not yet been a successful communist state.
    FQ: What kind of world did Kant say humans could understand? (Phenomenal)
    DQ: Do you believe emotions should be separate from reality?


  4. 16-2

    I disagree, the ratio of chaos would be similar. In fact, the higher population would have more leaders emerging that would probably be more helpful to the society in a positive way.

  5. (17.3) With the growth of population, yes there would be an increase in violence, crime, etc., but it's similar to a ratio. Even with 10 rats, you're bound to have some, but with 10 million it would increase exponentially.

    1. Anonymous9:03 AM CDT

      But would it increase exponentially? Or to scale?

    2. Studies have been done on rat population density and it demostrates, much like humans, if there are only 10 rats in a cage they act normal. If there are 500 rats in a cage, some problems exists like hiding in the corner or biting themselves, but if you put 10,000 rats in a cage they become cannibalistic and continue to fight each. The same goes for humans. If you have 5 people in the woods they most likely are not going to start eating each other, unless of course they were starving to death. Put 10,000 people in that same area and see what happens. Over population puts stress on a community.

  6. Anonymous9:03 AM CDT

    There's always the one to argue that humans aren't rats...just saying. I kind of agree with the probable results, but I understand it as humans are probably smarter than rats. We create our own social codes/rules that are acceptable to mutually avoid chaos. Therefore, our level of chaos, I would say, should be much lower than rats.

  7. I really enjoyed Kant's theory on morality. Seems that Kant would fit right in with Rousseau's community.

    FQ: what was Kant's most famous book? ( The Critique of Pure Reason)
    DQ: According to Kant, helping a person in need is not moral if you do it because you feel sorrow for them. Its only moral if you help them because its your duty. Can you do things out of good will and be moral even if its not your duty?

    3 minutes on Kant : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwOCmJevigw

  8. Chelsea (16-1)4:43 PM CDT

    Well from our discussion about the more people there are together and how it ends up , I think it is because with the increase in numbers there is more likelihood for variations and randomness to occur.

    FQ: What philosopher had such a strict pattern for his day that people in his town would set their watches by his walk ? (Kant)

    DQ: Do you agree with Kant that we can never see the complete picture of the way things are?

    Link: Kant's quotes