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Thursday, October 17, 2013

NoPhi Section 16, Group 3

Hello again, group!

Apologies for not posting immediately. So yesterday in class, Dr. Oliver lectured about Descartes, Montaigne, Pascal, and Rorty -- three historical philosophers and one modern.
In group, we discussed a couple of different things, but mainly stayed on the topic of the relationship between science and religion. A couple of questions I had written down in my notes are "Can God interfere with us when we are physical and he is nonphysical?" and "Is there such a thing as absolute truth?"

What are your thoughts on the philosophers we learned about? Do any of them interest you? Do you agree with any of their philosophies?
And how did you feel about our discussion? Was there anything that you wanted to say, but didn't?

Hopes for a good weekend to all!
--Hailey Lawson


  1. I thought we had a pretty interesting conversation this time!

    FQ: What did Rorty think about relativism? (It doesn't exist in the real world - AP 145)
    DQ: What do you think about Spinoza's God? Do you think that God would exist outside of nature, or all throughout it?

    Link: 10 quotes by Spinoza: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbTTR9UI5fI

  2. Anonymous5:51 PM CDT

    E.E (16-3)

    FQ: Which philosopher claimed that" our ideas represent the world to us, that only some aspects of that world are as they seem" in his great work An Essay Concerning Human Understanding(1690) ------- John Locke

    DQ: Do you think you are completely changed from your childhood? What have been making you change?

    3 minutes of philosophy ---- Locke version

  3. Austin Duke8:11 PM CDT

    (16-1) It may sound strange but I actually really like Descarte and his ideas about finding absolute certainty and all the things we can't be certain about.

    1. Chelsea 16-112:05 PM CDT

      I also like that he was trying to do that. With his work in mathematics he could find exact answers. With questions in life , it is much more complicated.

  4. Anonymous8:24 PM CDT

    Abigail Jones

    Good job guys, I think we had our first decent discussion! (too bad it's already half way through the semester...haha)

    FQ: who had an unusual thinking that God is the world? Baruch Spinoza
    DQ: Spinoza did not just admire geometry, he wrote philosophy as if it were geometry. How do you think philosophy is like geometry?


  5. Damon McCook 16-1

    You asked "Can God interfere with us when we are physical and he is nonphysical?"; according to Spinoza, God is indifferent and impersonal and could not care less about humanity. He says that you can love God, and you should, but don't expect anything in return. I believe he equates it to a nature lover getting loved back by nature. Dont expect it.

  6. Anonymous11:20 PM CDT

    Ricky (16-3)

    FQ: The afterlife, ______, is a setting in which you can guarantee that you will be over-punished or over-rewarded in relation to any rewards or punishments you might incur in your natural life. (Answer: ex hypothesi *found on page 84 in PBB)

    DQ: Spinoza talks about God and nature pretty much being the same thing? Do you think God and nature are the same? Why/why not?

    Podcast on Spinoza's ethics

  7. Courtney 16-312:11 AM CDT

    I was kind of excited this was our first discussion where we continued discussing different topics and enjoyed letting our ideas and converastations flow!
    FQ: Which philosopher is often described as the first of the British empiricists?- John Locke
    DQ: Locke had a very specific ideas about toleration, are any your ideas like his?

  8. Ben Nguyen 16-19:13 AM CDT

    I think there are absolute truths. I don't know what they are. (That's one)

  9. Andrew 16-110:27 AM CDT

    What would be the point of free will if God intervenes anyways?

  10. Anonymous11:14 AM CDT

    Anthony Helton 16-3
    FQ: Rene Descrates was a (blank) philosopher?
    DQ: Can you out grow being immature like a child or is it something to do with your mind?

  11. Taylore (16-2)11:24 AM CDT

    I would agree there is a such thing as absolute truths, when they are proven to be true. However, when it comes to religious its questionable because religious is more about having faith in what you believe to be true not what is proven!

  12. FQ: Pascal made important contributions to the study of what? [fluids]
    DQ: Do you have a personal absolute truth about life?

    i do believe in absolute truth in a sense. for instance, we take philosophy in the ROTC building. there is no disputing that. however, if we are discussing something like religion then everybody has their own truth and what they believe.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhOt0uUTetE this is a short youtube clip with someone discussing is it all truth or just relative.

  13. Michael 16-312:05 PM CDT

    FQ:Francois-Marie Arouet is better known as ___? (Voltaire)

    DQ: Is it possible that the catastrophic events in nature are part of earth's natural cycle yet we just perceive them as destructive?


  14. (16-2) I've particularly enjoyed learning about Boethius and Aristotle. So far most of the philosophers we've covered have interesting philosophies. (to me)