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Sunday, October 20, 2013

A-Team Section 16-1

I have never been the author so here you go. In the last class we discussed Descartes philosophy and realized there is not really much to say about his views. It led us to a discussion  about a new virtual video game coming out where everything is 3-D. We wondered what Descartes would have to say about that. Anyways I think this Spinoza guy had a very interesting argument about what exactly God is.

FQ: Who believed God is everything and believed God is nature? (Spinoza)
DQ: Could God really be everything?

17 comments:

  1. Austin Duke8:09 PM CDT

    (16-1)Well, to Descartes, wouldn't a virtual reality game be just as real as anything else?
    FQ: Why did John Locke flee to the Netherlands? (He was suspected of plotting against the King of England.)
    DQ: Do you think that a person's identity is defined by what they remember of their experiences?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-buzVjYQvY

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  2. Anonymous8:26 PM CDT

    I did not know they were coming out with a 3D game. That's crazy awesome! But yes I agree what Austin said about descartes!

    abigail jones (16,3)

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  3. Molly Group 17-1
    Yes I do think that God could be everything just depends on what you have learned and choice to believe

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  4. The point about the 3D game is that some people are already confusing reality and the 3D games. If Descartes was having trouble believing that the fire in his fireplace was real, then how would he react if he was playing a 3D virtual game where every thing is made to look like reality. Some of the games are designed to make one question if they are in reality or just playing a game. At some point, a player may question every thing in the game the same way Descartes did.

    FQ: Which American philosopher's work "Philosophy and the Mirror of Nature" criticized modern epistemology? (Rorty)
    DQ: Spinoza rejects Descartes dualistic belief of the mind and body being separate. Do you think Descartes early influence on Spinoza helped mold Spinoza's God or Nature theory? God and Nature are the same thing but with different names according to Spinoza, just as the mind and body are separate to Descartes, but are the same thing. Compare a human, mind and body, to the universe; God is the mind, and Nature is the body. Although he publicly rejected Descartes dualistic approach, did Spinoza just regurgitate Descartes theory and make it his own?

    Link on Mind and Body: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBVQfOUdRcw

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  5. Anonymous11:38 PM CDT

    Ricky (16-3)
    Going off the DQ of 'is god really everything'. Well I think it depends on each person. For some die hard Christians they'll argue that God is everything, at least from what I accounted for. Spinoza compares God and Nature as being pretty much the same thing. Would you be praying to mother nature in your time of need? Nature is random, at times it can be helpful and other times hurtful. Going off topic but God is an omniscient being. If god is everything than am I God? Are you god? Is the water I'm drinking right now God? Taking that to it's literal context, I'm pretty sure we all can agree that none of us are God unless we have some stuck up people in the class. But the question can also mean that everything we do, meaning of life, morals, etc etc is for the big guns upstairs, God. Yeah to some people but I like to believe God gave us a purpose to be living, that he let us have our own perspective and make our own decisions. God is God, preach, amen.

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  6. Courtney 16-312:21 AM CDT

    I think that's really interesting to question Descartes' views on a 3-D video game. Personally, I have never really questioned reality, but I know this would become very questionable for a man like Descartes.

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  7. 16-2
    Spinoza is right on point with my belief. God is Nature and Nature i God and it is impersonal. To answer Ricky's questions: no we, as individuals, are not God; however, we are a part of God.

    DQ: Do you believe that mind and body are two separate things or that mind just refers to the part of the body that can think etc..?

    FQ: What famous physicist believed in Spinoza's God? (Einstein)

    Link: http://vimeo.com/40712816
    It is on Spinoza's Philosophy. (it's lengthy, but it covers a lot about his thoughts and quotes)

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  8. "not really much to say about his views"-!

    3+ centuries of philosophers have disagreed...

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  9. Anonymous9:11 AM CDT

    Thanks for posting Xoe!

    Where was Richard Rorty born? (New York City)
    If Spinoza believed that every action ever is result of some cause, what is the first cause?

    Thomas Locke's ideas on the subconscious and personality are interesting. To the 3-D thing: it would have a really strange effect on society, and would probably change culture in a negative way.

    I was curious so I've been reading this site. In no ways would I say this author is reliable.
    http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/holohoax.htm

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    1. Ben Nguyen 16-19:11 AM CDT

      This is Ben ^

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  10. Andrew 16-110:25 AM CDT

    FQ: Why did Richard Rorty "abandoned ship" and quit as editor of The Linguistic Turn (1967)? Answer: He began to write sympathetically about philosophical traditions that were banned.
    DQ: Should some topics be banned from philosophy? Who gets to choose what is allowed to be philosophized?

    I enjoy learning about the skeptics in philosophy. I find them the most interesting.

    http://www.philosophicalsociety.com/archives/skepticism.htm

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  11. Jordan Cornelius10:28 AM CDT

    Its an interesting concept to think of a 3-D game. If there is a 3-D game, then whats the difference between a game and how tv/movies can be presented. Can we really create a virtual reality?
    FQ: Spinoza was a ____? (Rationalist)
    DQ: What would Descartes think about a virtual reality?
    This game isn't 3-D but its coming out soon and I'm beyond stoked http://www.callofduty.com/ghosts/codtime?utm_campaign=blackops2-us&utm_medium=search&utm_source=google&utm_term=cod-ghost-exact

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  12. Taylore (16-2)11:17 AM CDT

    The philosopher that seemed to interest me was John Locke, and how he believed that " you could be the same "man", but not the same person you previously were. I do not quit understand his theory of memory, in that is you cannot remember something you did it is not apart of you as a person. Personal identity is deeper than just self-conscious memory.
    FQ: ________ is defined as, projecting human qualities, such as compassions, on non-human being. [ anthropomorphism]
    DQ: Do you have as much freedom as you want in your life?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKvZuelTE2Y

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  13. unique 16-311:38 AM CDT

    to address the 3-d thing: i believe that it would only enhance the video game craze and probably not in a good way. for every 10 3-d violent video game you would get may 1 3-d educational or maybe even just positive.

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  14. Chelsea 16-111:56 AM CDT

    I don't think the 3D game would produce mind tricking realistic effects, at least when the first ones come out. Eventually it could become more and more detailed and start to trick us. Interesting to think about since people already get so wrapped up in the video games they play now and they play for hours.

    FQ: What Scottish philosopher came up with the example about the boy, the young soldier, and the old soldier and weakened Locke's argument of what it is to be a person? (Thomas Reid)

    DQ: Do you feel that you've changed into a different person over time? Do you think you will continue to change your priorities and values and become a different person than who you are now?

    Link: More info on John Locke











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  15. Anonymous12:40 PM CDT

    Anthony Helton 16-3
    Descrates would probably deny the existence of the game or declare that God has brought the game from the heavens.

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  16. jonathan bogasky8:10 PM CDT

    Epistemology gets confusing. I just read the chapter on Berkeley in PB and Campbell had a good point that cleared up that part of the debate for me. He said that the modern belief is that what we see is actually there and our brain doesn't create anything, but simply interprets it. Which leads me to believe that we can trust our senses for the most part.

    FQ: What area of philosophy was Berkeley famous for? (Metaphysics)
    DQ: How accurate is our perception of the world around us?

    Heres a link to an intro of sensation and perception http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEu5K2ZPjag

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