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Thursday, October 24, 2013

NoPhi (16, 3)

Hola!

During our group discussion in class, we elaborated about the question:

If a tree falls in the forrest and we're not around to hear it, did it make a sound?

It as a controversial question, so what do you think?

I'm still waiting for Ricky to post the FQ on group's FB page, and I'll post them on here.

- Tink

17 comments:

  1. Anonymous2:27 PM CDT

    Ricky (16-3)

    Sorry about the late reply, been super busy and have 3 papers due next week.

    FQ: _____ has an ameliorating effect on social behavior. (Answer: Commerce found on page 113 in PBB)

    DQ: We assume that things that occur in the past will have the same outcome in the future but that's not necessarily the case. Hume calls this our 'animal instinct.' "Nothing that you learn directly through your senses tells you about how it will behave in the future." Why do we use this 'instinct' and how does it benefit/harm us?

    3minute philosophy on David Hume
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3QZ2Ko-FOg

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  2. jonathan bogasky2:54 PM CDT

    The tree makes a sound. It's funny that anyone ever seriously questioned that, but I guess science has come a long way in the past couple hundred years.

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  3. Even though no one is there to hear it, the tree still makes a sound. It's a heavy object that's falling on to a flat surface, of course it makes a sound. Why was this even a serious philosophical question? I never understood that...

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    1. But isnt "sound" a human construction? Therefore if no human is there to hear what humans would call a "sound" then it actually didnt make a "sound."

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  4. We talked about the tree falling in our class too and my answer is I think it does sound if no one is around
    Molly 17-1

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  5. 16-3

    FQ: Why did Durant think Confucius was the most important thinker of all time? (He was a moral philosopher)

    DQ: Why do you think Rousseau felt he could justify forcing someone into freedom?

    A response to the question about the tree making a sound: http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=2533

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  6. Michael 16-310:12 AM CDT

    FQ:Which scottish philosopher believed that the design argument was not enough to prove the existence of the Christian God? (David Hume)

    DQ: Is there enough evidence in nature, (for you personally) to assume that some element of design was instilled in it's creation? Or is any form of order a factor that people have prescribed?

    Link:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3QZ2Ko-FOg

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  7. Austin Duke11:27 AM CDT

    Well why wouldn't it make a sound?

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    1. Chelsea 16-112:03 PM CDT

      I think the tree falling in the forest question could be answered by going back to realizing that the world does continue whether you are observing it or not.

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  8. Anonymous11:32 AM CDT

    Abigail Jones

    FQ: Who wrote, "man was born free, and everywhere he is in chains" in his book The Social Contract? (Rousseau)

    DQ: LH used the example of the creation of the eye. Humes says something greater (like God )had to have made it. What do you think?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk0ODplKCvw

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  9. i think some people would look at it more scientifically and most likely say no. however i believe it does, i just dont hear it. sound is sound.
    FQ: which philosopher combined political experience with philosophical insite and is a founder of modern conservatism? (Edmond Bourke)
    DQ:what is your definition of a sound?

    https://www.google.com/search?q=philosophy+and+sound&espv=210&es_sm=93&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=bZNuUpevHLLk4AOh74DYDQ&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1024&bih=679#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=pcdNbdRHTslzJM%3A%3BXJ9GqCBdC7kw0M%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fportermason.com%252Fjohnny%252Ffiles%252F1998%252F04%252F217-960x331.png%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fportermason.com%252Fjohnny%252F1998%252F04%252F24%252Fsmelll-of-philosophy-major%252F%3B960%3B331

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  10. Courtney 16-312:28 PM CDT

    To be perfectly honest about our discussion in class, I think people have to much time on their hands if they really want to debate if it makes a sound or not.
    FQ: Which philosopher tried to justify the idea that the future willbe like the pas is almost like pulling yourself up by your own bootstraps?- David Hume
    DQ: Do you feel like the past and the future have a large correlation?
    Link:http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/d/david_hume.html

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    1. Anrew 16-13:34 PM CST

      That does seem like a silly thing to argue about, but lets be honest, you can't tell me after hearing such a question you seriously don't have a curiosity to find an answer? Life if searching for answers that no one will ever answer. What is so different from questioning a noise from a falling tree and a book that tells us there is a God somewhere in the universe?

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    2. Andrew 16-13:37 PM CST

      let me rephrase that, What is so different from questioning a falling tree that no one hears to believing a God that no one sees?

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  11. I absolutely do think that the tree would make a sound.

    DQ: So far, who are your guys' favorite philosophers out of the ones we've talked about in class? Why?

    FQ: Who believed that God and nature had a direct correlation? (Spinoza)

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  12. Anonymous1:09 AM CDT

    Regardless if someone is around or not, I believe the tree falling made a sound.

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  13. Andrew 16-13:30 PM CST

    I can't help but to think logically about this one, a noise is still a noise no matter who or what is there to witness it. To those who believe otherwise I have a sincere question for you. Say someone choose to video record a tree falling, the recorder has the capability of recording sound of course, would you suggest the tree won't make a noise for no one is there to witness it, or instead suggest that the stand alone recorder counts as a witness?

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