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Quiz April 9

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1. What percentage of Americans don't expect the 2d coming before 2050?

2. Who is Christianity's most prominent "blame-the-victims horror story-teller"?

3. What percentage of Americans believe in the devil?

4. What percentage of Britons said they had no religion (in 2012)?

5. What is the latest scholarly consensus about America's exceptional religiosity?

6. What did William James consider the profoundest of questions?

7. Those who are doubtful about the value of their own lives are said to have what kind of soul?

8. The holding of what two irreconcilable things is the basis for life's "poisonousness" quality?  

9. What was James's answer to "life's most difficult question"?

10. Who or what finally––and continually!––decides the meaningfulness of life?
Discussion Questions:
  • What would persuade you that a person you'd met was the Jesus? What would you say to him?
  • Would you worship, or even respect, a god who punished humanity indiscriminately with earthquakes, disease, and other "acts of god"?
  • COMMENT: "There is one very serious defect to my mind in Christ’s moral character, and that is that He believed in hell. I do not myself feel that any person who is really profoundly humane can believe in everlasting punishment." Bertrand Russell, Why I Am Not a Christian
  • Why are Americans so much more religious than Brits, Swedes, and Danes (for example)?
  • What makes your life worth living? Or any life?

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The Philosopher and the Thief

Trespassing in the library of a dead genius

By John Kaag

Dozens of times over the past four years, I’ve made the drive from my home in Boston to a long-forgotten library in the middle of New Hampshire, accessible only by dirt road and hidden behind White Mountain pines. It once belonged to William Ernest Hocking, the last great idealist philosopher at Harvard, and though it contains irreplaceable volumes, it was known until recently only to a few of Hocking’s relatives and one very fastidious thief. And me.

I had come to Chocorua, New Hampshire, in 2009, to help plan a conference on William James. But I’m not a particularly dedicated philosopher and in general bore easily, so I soon found myself elsewhere: specifically, considering the virtues of the Schnecken at a German pastry shop. And this is where I found, browsing the scones, a man of ninety, wiry and sharp, who introduced himself as Bun Nickerson. Nickerson moved slowly, like most old philosophers do, but unlike most old philosophers his hobble wasn’t a function of longstanding inactivity. Instead, he explained, it was from farming and professional skiing.

I’m normally hesitant to say what I do for a living — “I teach philosophy” is often prelude to awkward silence — but Nickerson found my profession intriguing, because he’d grown up in a little house on a corner of a philosopher’s land. “Doctor Hocking’s land,” as he put it. Today, philosophers have arguments, office hours, books, articles, committee meetings, and the occasional student. Few of us have “land.” Nickerson made Hocking’s sound impressive and permanent, like the proper realm of a philosopher king: one stone manor house, six smaller summer cottages, two large barns, and one fishing pond with three beaver hutches, all situated on 400 acres of field and forest. Most seductively, Nickerson mentioned a library. Getting to see it struck me as a very good reason to skip out on my conference-planning responsibilities, so I climbed into Nickerson’s pickup and we bumped our way up the hill.

Contemporary academics, as a rule, don’t have personal libraries worth talking about. They leave inboxes, not archives. And so they avoid a problem that nineteenth-century intellectuals faced in the twilight of their lives: What to do with an intellectual home after it’s permanently vacated? One solution is donation to a large institution. But when this happens the books are lost among the millions in the stacks, reorganized in a homogenized Library of Congress categorization that permits the easy finding of any particular book but destroys the unique integrity of the collection. To avoid this fate, writers would often give their libraries to like-minded friends and students. Some were lucky enough to place their entire collections with universities like Harvard. But William Ernest Hocking and his son Richard, despite repeated attempts, failed to be this lucky.

Born in 1873, William Hocking spent his teenage years in Joliet, Illinois, working odd jobs as a mapmaker and illustrator before entering Iowa’s College of Agriculture and Mechanical Arts (now Iowa State). Like many American philosophers, he didn’t initially intend to become one. He wanted to practice engineering. And this was his plan until the late 1890s, when he read Principles of Psychology, by William James, who hadn’t wanted to be a philosopher either. By the time Hocking read the Psychology, James was well on his way to founding a school of thought known as American pragmatism. Pragmatism holds that truth is to be judged on the basis of its practical consequences and its ability to enrich human experience. James’s pragmatism was just grounded enough to convince a would-be engineer that philosophy wasn’t a complete waste of time, and Hocking began studying philosophy at Harvard in 1899. He was one of the last students to work under the “Philosophical Four”: William James, George Herbert Palmer, Josiah Royce, and George Santayana, some of whom would later leave him their books. By the end of his life, Hocking, an avid collector, had acquired more volumes than he knew what to do with. He kept them in a non-winterized library in New Hampshire. After he died, his treasures were left to the mice and porcupines of the White Mountains.



William Hocking’s former library in Chocorua, New Hampshire 



William Hocking (1873-1966)


When Nickerson and I showed up, the Hocking library was abandoned. He explained that members of the family still spent time on the land, particularly in summer, but this was a brisk fall day. The library was a small stone house in the Arts and Crafts style, fronted by French doors and covered by a steeply sloping roof with two chimneys. I peered in through the glass and was immediately reminded of the opening scene of Goethe’s Faust (one of Hocking’s favorites, I later learned), in which Faust, surrounded by well-thumbed books, laments the fragility of human knowledge. In the words of a depressed William James, “All natural goods perish. Riches take wings; fame is a breath; love is a cheat; youth and health and pleasure vanish.”

I wanted nothing more than to go inside, but I’m sure I wouldn’t have violated Hocking’s sacred space without permission had it not been for the Century Dictionary that I could see through the window. First published in 1891, the Century Dictionarywas regarded by the critic H. W. Henshaw as “the most conspicuous literary monument of the 19th century.” It was a masterpiece of lexicography, running more than 7,000 pages. Some of the best minds in America had worked for years on this first edition, including one of the founders of American philosophy, C. S. Peirce. I’d always had a certain fascination with Peirce — the kind that makes you write a doctoral dissertation, and then, after the dissertation is finished, write a book on him. The son of a Harvard mathematician, Peirce had picked up his brother’s copy of Richard Whately’s Elements of Logic at the age of fourteen and breezed through. Despite being trained as a chemist and geodesist, Peirce would consider logic and metaphysics his lifelong calling. His papers in the Journal of Speculative Philosophy in the late 1860s would set the contours for American pragmatism for the next three decades. Dewey, James, and Royce all looked to him for inspiration and guidance; James tried to get him a permanent job at Harvard, but Peirce, a master of self-sabotage, foiled his friend’s attempts. Peirce never managed to fit in. He was always meddling, often quite effectively, in other people’s research. So he found part-time employment more suited to a polymath: writing entries for the Dictionary on astronomy, logic, mathematics, mechanics, metaphysics, and weights and measures.

I’d never seen a Century Dictionary before. I looked around for Nickerson, but he’d slipped off over the hill to revisit one of his old haunts. This isn’t breaking and entering, I thought. When doors are unlocked, it’s just entering.

Such rationalizations were probably akin to the thoughts of another man, a close relation to the Hocking family. This fellow had entered the library one day in February of 2007, while high on heroin, and proceeded to steal several hundred rare books — among them the first impression of the first edition of Hobbes’s Leviathan, published 1651 — which he shipped to his home address in Berkeley, California. Apprehended a year later, he told investigators that he had stolen the books in order to demonstrate to the family the importance of taking better care of them. But as the haul was worth more than a quarter of a million dollars, and as some of the books had already appeared on eBay, the law reached a different conclusion. The man went to jail, where I was not inclined to follow him.

Trespassing was easier than I could have imagined. The Dictionary’s cover was original — tan leather that had taken on a dark patina over more than a century of use — and the front page confirmed my suspicions. 1891. First edition. The pages were surprisingly brittle for a book just over 100 years old, a fragility born of enduring many seasons of freezing temperatures followed by warmer spells. Thawing out isn’t something books do with a great deal of grace. I took a look at a few random entries — “maid-pale,” “maid-servant,” “maieutic” — just enough to remember that this was a relic of a bygone age. I wondered which entries Peirce had written, since none of them were signed.

I looked at the shelf above the dictionary, at a long set of leather-bound volumes: the Journal of Speculative Philosophy, where Peirce had made his mark. It was the first run of the complete set, from 1867 to 1893. I wanted to see Hocking’s signature, so I slipped the first volume out. But it wasn’t Hocking’s name at all. In tight, compulsive script was written, “Charles S. Peirce.” As a pragmatist, I am highly suspicious of transcendence. But on that day, surrounded by the remains of philosophy, I began to believe in the reality of the unseen, in the sorts of things that James describes in his Varieties of Religious Experience. I began to believe that it was possible to come into direct contact with a reality that was long gone.

I spent the rest of the afternoon discovering James’s copies of Berkeley, Hume, Nietzsche, and Plato, most of them signed in a sprawling hand, “Wm. James.” Edmund Husserl’s signed copy of the Cartesian Mediations was being used as a doorstop (this little gem, if sold at Christie’s, could put one of my students through a year of university). And at the end of the day I ventured into the attic and discovered a letter from Walt Whitman to one of the Hockings’ relatives, John Boyle O’Reilly. This material was priceless and irreplaceable. And then there were the merely expensive volumes: first editions of Descartes, Hobbes, and Spinoza, as well as Hegel, Kant, and Malbranche. When I returned a year later, the most valuable item in the collection turned up: a first edition of Two Treatises on Government, without a name on the title page. Locke had initially published it anonymously.

Over the course of the next three years, the granddaughters of William Ernest Hocking allowed my colleague Carol Hay and me to lend a hand in saving the books. The rarest were moved to off-site storage. Today, most of the volumes are kept in a room in the archives of the O’Leary Library, at the University of Massachusetts Lowell. It’s isolated, but at least it’s dry, warm, and rodent-free. I hope it doesn’t remain isolated for long. UML is a small but up-and-coming school, and, thanks to the Hocking family’s generosity, it has unexpectedly acquired a rather large cache of philosophical masterpieces. I visit often to see them, under fluorescent lights. It always makes me a bit sad. I still think of the books in New Hampshire, just as I first found them — priceless but vulnerable, a bit like life at its best. I no longer have to trespass to see them, but some unpragmatic part of me wishes I did. Atlantic

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  1. #5

    "What makes your life worth living? Or any life?"

    Right now my life is worth living for my dog and my 2 year old brother. If I lost either one of them, I would absolutely lose my mind. I strive to to make sure my dog has lived her life to the fullest for whenever it's time for her to cross the rainbow bridge. For my brother, I want him to be able to look up to someone he's related to. I want to get my Ph.D in Forensic Psychology to show him there are no limits in life.

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    1. I similarly believe that the ability to impact and help others is what makes life worth living. Even though it can seem that what we do in life won't matter in the grand scheme of things, I still feel that what we choose to do in this life can make ripples in the world. I think that when I reach the end of my life I'll be content and satisfied knowing that I was a source of kindness and generosity to the people I touched around me. The arts, as well as the pursuit of knowledge and the joy and excitement they both bring also makes life worth living.

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    2. I respect your post and the character behind it. When I see someone who is struggling I've always noticed that they not only lack motivation, but a purpose as well. You wanting to get your Ph. D motivation and you wanting to show your brother that there are no limits in life is your purpose.

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    3. You making life worth living for you loved ones and not you is such a simple, yet hard thing to find in someone now. Usually I see people comment it's worth living to know you did something for yourself. I totally agree with you and others making your life worth living. I want to impact as many people as I can in a good way. #5

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    4. My life is worth living because I believe everyone is here for a purpose and has specific talents to execute that purpose. I agree that compared to how many people are on this Earth you can feel quite small and useless, but to those around you, you can mean the world.
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  3. #5

    "Would you worship, or even respect, a god who punished humanity indiscriminately with earthquakes, disease, and other "acts of god"?"

    I've mentioned many times that I have a hard time in believing as it is. So no, I don't think I would ever worship or respect a god who punishes humanity that way. Is there any benefit from suffering?

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    1. I feel the same way. While one might argue the indiscriminate nature of the act shows God's even-handed and impartial judgement, that same impartiality could also equate to an indifference close to cruelty. It's these types of events that cause so many innocent and good people to suffer for seemingly no reason that makes it impossible for many people to believe in a God in general.

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  4. Jake Marvelli

    Would you worship, or even respect, a god who punished humanity indiscriminately with earthquakes, disease, and other "acts of god"?

    Yes. I do believe in everything happens for a reason therefore, after disasters I do worship God. You hear all the time about how there's a sense of unity like never before through places impacted by these disasters. People should look toward a God like never before during those times.

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    1. I also believe everything happens for a reason. I don't believe God actually causes these things to happen, but I believe he is there for us when they do.
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  5. What makes your life worth living? Or any life?

    What makes my life worth living is my family. They have sacrificed so much for me to get where I am and it is something I could never repay. I push myself to do the best I can in whatever I am doing to make them proud. I think that setting goals is something that gives people something to live for and my goal is to by my parents a house one day.

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    1. I agree! Family and the thought of having your own family one day certainly adds to life and moving forward.

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    2. I agreed. My parents suffered a lot in order for me to get here. If it wasn't for my parent i wouldn't be here at all. So, I do believe that my life is worth a living because I have to repay what my parents did for me.

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  6. Why are Americans so much more religious than Brits, Swedes, and Danes (for example)?

    The history of our country was brought up upon religion. Even during the early days of settlement people would gather around to preach. It is something that is passed down from generation to generation in families unlike any other country. I know when I was growing up some of my first memories were at church and doing community service through the church. It is something I intend on passing down to my children as well.

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    1. I agree! We even have "In God We Trust" on our money! Definitely a big part of history and tradition.

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    2. Anonymous3:28 AM CDT

      I agree with you this is a big part of our traditions.
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  7. What would persuade you that a person you'd met was the Jesus? What would you say to him?

    I think if I met Jesus, it be obvious. That being said, him performing miracles would certainly be very convincing. I would ask him to absolve me!

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    1. I see where you are coming from about it may be obvious, however I would still be skeptical. I'm not sure what would count as a miracle or not.
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    2. I agree with you, in that in order for me to be persuaded and convinced that a person I met was Jesus it would have to be so overwhelmingly obvious that there would be no room for doubt. Even though this might be naive, I think most of my judgement would have to come from my gut feeling. But again, the feeling would have to be undeniable.

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    3. I agree. The feeling of meeting Jesus would be like no other feeling that you have ever felt before. It's hard to describe how you'd feel or what you would say in that particular situation. I would like to think there would be so many things I would love to say, but I cant help but feel that I may be left utterly speechless.
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  8. What makes your life worth living? Or any life?

    I like our loved ones make life worth living. Without our loved ones, we would lack support and motivation. I think also the prospect of doing new things and having things to look forward too, like a new career and children even makes life meaningful.

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    1. Agreed. I hate to say fulfilling the "American Dream", but just living to your own expectations and getting out there and doing or experiencing whatever you want makes it so worth it. There is so much to see out there and not nearly enough time, and it surely doesn't slow down for you to enjoy the things or people you love.

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    2. The "life worth living" is variable person to person. For me, my family, friends, and connections with others, such as strangers, patients, etc. are all what make life bearable for me. I strive to love and help others daily.
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  9. What would persuade you that a person you'd met was the Jesus? What would you say to him?
    I don't think I anything could persuade me. I'd like to think I would just know, however I'm not sure it would be like that. If Jesus was infront of me I'm not sure what I would even say. I would have so many questions.
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    What makes your life worth living? Or any life?
    What makes my life worth living is everyone around me. I want to encourage people and want to impact them in a good way. I think life in general is worth living to learn about others and everything around you. Especially to get to know what's outside of your bubble.
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  11. COMMENT: "There is one very serious defect to my mind in Christ’s moral character, and that is that He believed in hell. I do not myself feel that any person who is really profoundly humane can believe in everlasting punishment." Bertrand Russell

    It is exactly this, the idea of hell and everlasting punishment, that first instilled in me any type of reluctance or mistrust in the Bible's depiction of God and Christ. Being raised by Christian values, the one thing that has never made sense is how a loving, good, and forgiving God could also send the souls that he loved so much to hell forever. That's something I've never been able to justify, and especially the idea of predestination. In that sense, I completely understand Russell's reasoning because I also can't comprehend how someone as compassionate as Jesus could also instill in people so much fear and misery through the notion of eternal damnation.

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    1. Anonymous9:45 AM CDT

      Have you heard of purgatory? Protestant churches reject the idea, but it is a belief held in the Catholic church. It's essentially a waiting period after someone's soul leaves the earth where they are cleansed of their sins. It is neither Heaven or Hell. If you are in purgatory, you made it to Heaven, just not yet. The catholic church doesn't teach what happens in purgatory, but I believe it is where you are literally put into other people's shoes in a sense and must feel and experience the repercussions of your sins; the only way to truly feel sorry for what you have done on Earth and be cleansed of your sins (that's not a teaching of the Catholic Church only my belief). I also believe it's possible to be in purgatory for forever, simply because your sins on Earth will continue to affect generations. This is why I believe in the idea of Hell, but that no one goes there (again my belief). You don't suffer in purgatory, but it isn't eternal happiness like heaven, it's the constant judgment and rebirth that is necessary to cleanse your soul. It's the purification necessary to enter the joy of heaven. Hebrews 10:27 says "Just as it is appointed that human beings die once, and after this is the judgement" & Revelation 21:27 says "[about heaven] nothing unclean will enter it." I encourage you to read into the idea of purgatory and maybe reach out to a priest to discuss it further.

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    2. I understand the complexity and confusion of the concept of hell. Now I grew up Catholic, completed my cataclysm for communion, but was led off by different beliefs. Now when I converted to Christianity, I heeded the advice giving by Jesus, to test all things. I do not follow any denomination (not even the non-denomination). Now while I do agree with "nothing unclean will enter it" Rev 21:27 "But there shall by no means enter it anything that defiles..." The Hebrews 10:27 "but a certain fearful expectation of judgement...". I would look into this purgatory, not through the perspective of Catholic or "Christian" views,but your own research. There is no purgatory, but a state of sleep that Jesus talks about. Religion can be very misguiding, because it is coming from someone who studied their religion and only bits and pieces of others. America's form of study when it comes to religion creates the Religion Paradigm. Pastors and Priests go to private schools to learn about their religion, but the information is limited, or filtered. Not judging, please understand. Seek Jesus in gaining this answer, and He will guide you. God Bless!

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    3. I see what your saying Anna, and I can understand how that can seem discouraging. But Bertrand Russell couldn't understand why Jesus talked about Damnation. The reason why I say this is because in order to understand someone, you cannot view the perspective in your own eyes. There has to be an open mind, but also there has to be evidence (testimony). There are many things Jesus taught, and throughout His teachings He gave examples.Many of them actually. In order to understand Him, you have to do research, but also ask for His guidance with an open heart. I can only say this because what I have been through, my experience is my testimony. To understand what Jesus was teaching I could not view it based on my opnion or views of others who follow religion or facts that are not in scripture. That's unfortunately a lot, but thankful to Jesus fro providing a way. Please don't look at the message hell and eternal damnation without looking at the full scope of ALL His teachings.Looking at it one sided only creates a bias view, and leaves an ugly taste. But when you receive the truth, then you become fully aware of what the message Jesus The Christ was and still is actually teaching.

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    4. Yes, I've heard of purgatory. Until I went off to college I attended Sunday school and youth group. I also went to a Christian school since I was in Kindergarten. Of course, there are definitely areas of scripture that deserve more of my time and understanding before my judgement is justified, but much of my life has been centered around Christ and His teachings. I'm not simply writing off the Bible because I read a few philosophers. I'm also not saying I don't believe in Jesus, I just don't view the Bible as something with absolute truth. But thank you, I do appreciate y'alls time and care in your replies.

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  12. "What makes your life worth living?"
    I think the easiest way to answer this complicated question is by simply stating, the experience of life itself.
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    1. I love this! I think it's so important to just experience life. Not only should you live in the moment, but live for tomorrow too! They go hand in hand. Experiment while you've got the chance.

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  13. What makes your life worth living? Or any life?

    I think just having something to live for other than yourself makes life worth living. Whenever questions like this come up I always think about the poem, "O Me! O Life" by Walt Whitman. He's essentially asking, what's the point of living when life is filled with so much sadness and disappointment? Whitman answers, "That you are here - that life exists and identity,/ That the powerful play goes on, and you may contribute a verse." I've never forgotten his answer because it's so simple. You don't need some overwhelming, larger than life thing to make your life meaningful or give you a purpose. Just being here and having the chance to experience what it means to live is enough.

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    1. Anonymous3:23 AM CDT

      I agree you worded that perfectly, life is beautiful and shouldn't be taken for granted and everything is something new.
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  14. "What would persuade you that a person you'd met was the Jesus? What would you say to him?"
    Oof, that is a tough one as well. Maybe fly in front of me and telepathically speak to me.
    At that point I would just say, thank you.
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      I honestly felt this somethings are just as best as just giving a simple thanks especially for all that he has done, but it is a tough question because how would you really know what to say.
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    2. I would have to see for my self with his words, actions, and how he lived his life. To see who he really is when no one is watching. Just have to wait and see.

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    3. I agree with Michael. Watching is really the only way to know who a person really is, at least in personal experience. I wouldn't jump into it without having some reservations.

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  15. "Would you worship, or even respect, a god who punished humanity indiscriminately with earthquakes, disease, and other "acts of god"?
    I don't think I could. But I am not religious either so.
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  17. Why are Americans so much more religious than Brits, Swedes, and Danes (for example)?

    I think this primarily has to do with America's separation of church and state and our stance towards religious freedom. Historically, European political institutions and governments were linked to a certain religion, therefore it became tainted with themes of corruption and intolerance. Secularism in America allowed for separation of the two and enabled Americans to form their own ideas and beliefs about religion. There's a huge difference between being forced to follow something and having the freedom to choose for yourself.
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    1. I think that's a really good way to put it. Separation of the church and state is so important in the US and has become a huge indention in history that is never going to erase.

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    2. I couldn't agree more. Protestants and Catholics would kill each other for no reason other than they thought they should because they believed differently. They failed to realize that they're more alike in the aspects that they loved their children and were just trying to provide for their families. America was used as a tolerant escape.
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      That makes a lot of sense to me. Americans as whole generally seem to be contrarian by nature. So when there is not a mandate then we don't have something that we feel like we must push against.

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  18. Anonymous3:20 AM CDT

    Would you worship, or even respect, a god who punished humanity indiscriminately with earthquakes, disease, and other "acts of god"?
    Yes I would because I don't think it would necessarily a punishment but a way of messages being sent. Everything happens for a reason but I still remain and hold on to faith.
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  19. Why are Americans so much more religious than Brits, Swedes, and Danes (for example)?

    I think it kind of speaks for itself. The US is a country built off of religion. The ability to have religious freedom. The issue that we have along with that is everyone's ability to freely opinionate which causes discressions. Everyone is going to think that their religion is better than someone else's religion, or think that they practice it better. The Brits, along with everyone else, had already established a certain religion at one point in time. The history of the US deals otherwise.

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    1. I agree, the U.S. was founded for religious freedom. Also to break away from the constraints, England was putting on them. But I think because of the freedom that the government has given us to worship whatever religion makes the U.S. special.

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    2. I agree as well. This is a free country and we have the freedom to choose what or who we want to worship or if we want to worship at all. We don't have any shackles on our religion and we aren't forced to believe anything

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  20. 4-7-20
    -posted a comment on quiz
    -replied to a comment
    -replied to a comment
    -replied to a comment

    4-9-20
    -posted a comment on quiz
    -replied to a comment
    -replied to a comment
    -replied to a comment

    2 runs, 8 bases.

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  21. What makes your life worth living? Or any life?

    I think what makes your live worth living is up to the person. It could literally be for anything or for nothing. But for most people its because they want to achieve whatever goal that they have, or maybe they want to help others, or just simply enjoy the pleasures of life.

    Michael DeLay #5

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  22. Would you worship, or even respect, a god who punished humanity indiscriminately with earthquakes, disease, and other "acts of god"?

    I would, who are we to say that we guaranteed another day of life. If you believe that God gave you this life then he should have the right to take it back and if your a Christian that's not a bad thing because you get to go to heaven.

    Sec 5

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  23. April 9th
    Replied to comment about no purpose of the world.
    Posted comment about what if the world had no ultimate purpose
    Replied to comment about being more conscious
    Replied to comment about morals and rules.
    Posted comment about life worth living
    Replied to comment about US being more religious
    Posted about Respecting God.
    Replied to comment about meeting the Jesus

    8 bases/ 2 runs
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  24. What makes your life worth living? Or any life?
    I believe what makes my life worth living is the sacrifice that many people have made in order to let me have the freedom I have today.
    section 5

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  25. Would you worship, or even respect, a god who punished humanity indiscriminately with earthquakes, disease, and other "acts of god"?
    I would. Because I know that behind every action there is a reason, and at the end of a storm there is a rainbow.
    section 5

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  26. What would persuade you that a person you'd met was the Jesus? What would you say to him?
    I would be persuaded by his words and actions and the power that he radiates as the son of God.
    section 5

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  27. 4-7-20
    replied to 1 comment in quiz
    posted a comment in quiz
    posted a comment in quiz
    posted a comment in quiz

    4-9-20
    replied to 1 comment in quiz
    posted a comment in quiz
    posted a comment in quiz
    posted a comment in quiz

    8 bases= 2 runs
    section 5

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  28. Would you worship, or even respect, a god who punished humanity indiscriminately with earthquakes, disease, and other "acts of god"?

    I would not worship a god if they punished humanity without reason. All of these things are natural and partially caused by humans. If a god gave us free will and created the laws of nature and if they were to impede on my free will or the laws of nature then then I would not worship them because they would be correcting a flaw in their plan and any god worth worshiping should be perfect.

    Why are Americans so much more religious than Brits, Swedes, and Danes (for example)?

    I think Fantasyland explains this very well. Simply put, Americans are more prone to believe rather than know. They'd rather give into emotions rather than logic.

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  29. Would you worship, or even respect, a god who punished humanity indiscriminately with earthquakes, disease, and other "acts of god"?

    Yes I would worship and even respect our God despite all those catastrophes. There is reason why, God explains how He is just. He also provides guidance and instruction when times like these happen. Now, there's a deeper wisdom, that can't truly be understood unless you allow God to teach you. There is no fear when catastrophes hit, to be honest, there is peace in my heart. Now I apply the teachings that our Lord and Savior Jesus the Christ gave us, and doing this daily.To serving those in need and providing what I have to those who do not have. The perspective gained through the eyes of Jesus cannot come from a Pastor, that's just one sided. God loves us all, and I wish I was able to share with you why I know this, in person.

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  30. What makes your life worth living? Or any life?

    Life, in itself, has no inherent meaning until we place meaning into it. Some find meaning in devoting it to a God. Some devote themselves to art instead. Some find it in the search for material possessions, and some find meaning in raising a family. A "meaning" is up for each individual to find in themselves.

    As the wonderful Victor Frankl rightly said, "Everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms—to choose one’s attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one’s own way."

    For me, the meaning of life is the search for unselfish love. Whether it be for my family, my friends, or the world of nature around me, I believe that love is the force that makes humankind special. The more I attempt to recognize this force, the more grateful I become that I'm able to experience it. To experience life is a wonderful privilege. Even on the worst days, the fact that I'm still able to take in a breath of fresh air and recognize the complexity of the internal systems of cells that dutifully allow me to stay alive is enough meaning for me.

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    1. Bases for week of April 6-10:

      April 9:
      - Commented on 4 Paws, 6 Feet
      - Posted David Lynch & accessing the subconcious
      - Commented on John Prine 1946-2020
      - Replied to comment on David Lynch
      - Commented on Just keep your distance
      - Commented on Bernie Exits
      - Commented on Quiz April 7
      - Commented on Quiz April 9

      Totals: 8 Bases/2 Runs

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  31. What would persuade you that a person you'd met was the Jesus? What would you say to him?

    if this person that i met could actually perform miracles right before my eyes that would convince me that there is more to life than we know now. i would see that powers or special abilities or possible in some way and that would interest me but it wouldn't lead me to believe this person was Jesus because i dont personally believe in that so i wouldnt associate these miracles to jesus, just in to a higher being of sorts. (section #6)

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  32. What makes your life worth living? Or any life?

    i believe its your own choice to decide if your own life is worth living. whatever you decide that brings you satisfaction in this life would decide if you want to continue living. i dont believe we have an obligation to continue living if we so choose. what makes my own personal life worth living to me is that i want to see what will happen to the world as i continue living through it. each new experience that i have every day makes my life worth living to me. (section #6)

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  33. Would you worship, or even respect, a god who punished humanity indiscriminately with earthquakes, disease, and other "acts of god"?

    personally i wouldnt worship anything but if i did believe in a god i would respect him more if he did these indiscriminately because i would believe that to be more fair to the entire population rather than him favoring one group of people more than the other given his all powerful abilities. (section #6)

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  34. Why are Americans so much more religious than Brits, Swedes, and Danes (for example)?

    i believe America as a whole is so much more religious than other places because religion has been present ever since the establishment in it and was central to the creation of it. this has carried on throughout our time and although not as blatantly present in today it is still present. (section #6)

    4/7/2020: responded to 4 DQ's in comment section under quiz
    4/9/2020: responded to 4 DQ's in comment section under quiz
    total for week 8 bases/ 2 runs

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    1. I agree, religious freedom was the main objective in coming to the Americas. But they knew that enslaving, torturing, and killing innocent lives was unethical they had to look towards the all mighty for guidance. Believing since they are moving forward, and gaining so much ground, these religious beliefs seemed to justify the actions of the settlers.
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    2. Well after taking American History, our true objective was actually economical reasons. Religion was more of a side objective. That why in early America, slaves were introduced. For economical reasons.

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  35. What would persuade you that a person you'd met was the Jesus? What would you say to him?
    -To have someone I've just met tell me that they are Jesus Christ, I might be in a state of shock. I would go to his feet and say "It is you my lord, please forgive me"
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  36. Would you worship, or even respect, a god who punished humanity indiscriminately with earthquakes, disease, and other "acts of god"?
    - An Act of God is an action taken by the creator of all things, to say he is punishing the human race is an acceptance of guilt, guilt to something the human race has done and understands that such acts of God would not be necessary it there is no guilt to accept. Yes, I would continue to worship God regardless of what he decides to do.
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  37. Why are Americans so much more religious than Brits, Swedes, and Danes?
    - I think americans take religion more seriously than other countries because of all the blood shed and innocent lives that were taken to build the america we live in today. Americans have this sense to look to God in order to repent for the lives their ancestors took.
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  38. April 7, 2020
    2 DQ answered
    2 responds to classmates
    April 9, 2020
    3 DQ answered
    1 classmate response

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  39. What makes your life worth living? Or any life?
    I believe that life is worth living because we(human) are the chosen. We are special in a way of a very intelligent compare other living things. We have choices, while other living things are being forced.

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  40. Why are Americans so much more religious than Brits, Swedes, and Danes?
    Americans are so much more religious than Brits, Swedes, and Danes because America is built upon the words of God. "IN God We Trust",

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  41. What makes your life worth living? Or any life?

    Everyone's answer is going to be different, and that is because our life experiences answer this question. My life has been worth living because of the loving family I have and the happiest memories that life has given me.

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  42. Would you worship, or even respect, a god who punished humanity indiscriminately with earthquakes, disease, and other "acts of god"?
    I believe that all these tragedies are things that we can't avoid in life. I do not necessary think of a way to punish humanity. I believe that they are here to teach us lessons that we've never know before.

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  43. Would you worship, or even respect, a god who punished humanity indiscriminately with earthquakes, disease, and other "acts of god"?

    Yes I would, I believe that God would have a reason for these actions. I also believe that our faith would be tested in these actions.

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    1. April 2nd
      Answered 2 discussion questions
      Commented on 2 of my classmates' posts
      4 bases= 1 Run

      April 9
      Answered 2 discussion questions
      Commented on 2 of my classmates' posts
      4 bases= 1 run

      Total 8 bases or 2 runs

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  44. In response to "what makes life worth living"...
    I believe that there are many things that are apt to make life worth living. Coming from someone like myself, who struggles with mental health, I have to think of these things often to keep the mindset that life is good if you try to make it that way. Being able to surround yourself with people who love and care about you and vice versa. Finding joy in the little things like phone calls, animals, your favorite meal, or watching a movie that you've always loved. Being able to sit outside on a patio or in a backyard and be with someone who makes you feel warm inside and listen to their laugh. Going home to see your family on a holiday, playing with your childhood pet, singing oldies in the car with your grandmother. These are just a handful of things that keep me going and make life worth living for me.
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  45. In response to the DQ on meeting Jesus...
    I feel that deep within my heart, if I met Jesus I would immediately know that it was him. In regards to the way that he acted, I feel like he would be humble, not flashing the fact that he is the son of God, and he would look simultaneously like the most normal person you have ever met and the most beautiful, extraordinary person. His actions and the way that he would go about treating people in his everyday business would confirm my suspicions on who he is.
    Section 5

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  46. Scorecard

    4 posts on quiz April 7

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  47. What would persuade you that a person you'd met was the Jesus? What would you say to him?

    If someone came to me saying that they met Jesus I would probably not believe them. I am open to the idea of meeting Jesus and I respect other beliefs and experiences. I would say that I would respect their experience and i would be open to listen to them. I, personally, would not be able to believe that someone met Jesus until I had the same experience.

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  48. What makes your life worth living? Or any life?

    What makes my life worth living is my dog and my family. If I did not have either of those things i do not know what I would do. I try to give my dog the best life he can live and I also rely on my family and try to make them proud.

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    1. Weekly Score card:

      april 7:
      1)discussion question on quiz
      2)discussion question on quiz
      3)replied to post on quiz
      4)replied to post on quiz
      april 9:
      1)discussion question on quiz
      2)discussion question on quiz
      3)replied to post on quiz
      4) replied to post on quiz

      total: 8 bases (2 runs)

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  49. April 7
    Comment on Anna S. post.
    Comment on Pou Khai’s post
    Responded to 2 DQ’s

    April 9
    Commented on Jordan Butler’s post
    Commented on Jordan Butler’s post
    Responded to “What makes your life worth living? Or any life?”
    Responded to “Why are Americans so much more religious than Brits, Swedes, and Danes (for example)?”

    8 Bases/2 Runs

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  50. Sec. 11

    1. What percentage of Americans don't expect the 2d coming before 2050?

    2. Who is Christianity's most prominent "blame-the-victims horror story-teller"?

    3. What percentage of Americans believe in the devil?

    4. What percentage of Britons said they had no religion (in 2012)?

    5. What is the latest scholarly consensus about America's exceptional religiosity?


    1.17
    2.Pat Robertson
    3.Between 50 and 75
    4.50
    5.An economic theory. Because all forms of religion are products in a marketplace, they say, our exceptional free marketism has produced more supply and therefore generated more demand.

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  51. Sec. 11

    6. What did William James consider the profoundest of questions?

    7. Those who are doubtful about the value of their own lives are said to have what kind of soul?

    8. The holding of what two irreconcilable things is the basis for life's "poisonousness" quality?

    9. What was James's answer to "life's most difficult question"?

    10. Who or what finally––and continually!––decides the meaningfulness of life?


    6.“Is life worth living?”
    7.“sick-souled”
    8.We cling to the hope that our world is both rational and meaningful; we may eventually come to see that it is neither
    9.Maybe
    10.Us, our wills.

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  52. Sec. 11

    Would you worship, or even respect, a god who punished humanity indiscriminately with earthquakes, disease, and other "acts of god"?

    Well, the way that I see God is as a “just entity”. I believe that everything happens for a reason; therefore, I feel like every tornado, tsunami, earthquake, pandemic, etc. is for a reason. God does not make mistakes. He is a mysterious being that is not religious because religion is interpretation. Religion is man-made. I believe those terrible events to maintain natural balance. The same way every great extinction happens.

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  53. Sec. 11

    Why are Americans so much more religious than Brits, Swedes, and Danes (for example)?

    America has been the melting pot of cultures and religions since the beginning. The many European immigrants have brought their various religious beliefs to one collective country. So, Americans are basically Brits, Swedes, and Danes and living together. There is a lot of room for argument and debate over who’s religion is the “true religion”. Over the years, this disagreement has turned into different cultures openly fighting about why their religion is best.

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  54. Sec. 11

    Apr. 7: I posted 2 comments to the Quiz (LH 19-23; FL 29-30) and 2 DQ (“Are there any moral rules…” and “Does history mean anything…”)

    Apr. 9: I posted 2 comments to the Quiz (FL 31-32; AP Prologue) and 2 DQ (“Would you worship, or even respect, a god…” and “Why are Americans so much more religious than..”)

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