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Thursday, April 2, 2020

Quiz April 7

Kant, Bentham, Hegel, Schopenhauer LH 19-23; FL 29-30
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1. Kant said we can know the ____ but not the ____ world. 

2. What was Kant's great insight?

3. What, according to Kant, is irrelevant to morality?

4. Kant said you should never ___, because ___. Kant called the principle that supports this view the ____ _____.

5. Who formulated the Greatest Happiness principle? What did he call his method? Where can you find him today?

6. Who created a thought experiment that seems to refute Bentham's view of how pleasure relates to human motivation?


7. What did Hegel mean when he spoke of the "owl of Minerva"? What did he think had been reached in his lifetime?

8. What Kantian view did Hegel reject?

9. What is Geist? When did Hegel say it achieved self-knowledge?

10. What "blind driving force" did Schopenhauer allege to pervade absolutely everything (including us)?

11. What did Schopenhauer say could help us escape the cycle of striving and desire?

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12. For what American president was "the world of legend and myth a real world"?

13. What made it possible, beginning in the '90s, for "cockamamie ideas and outright falsehoods" to spread fast and wide?

14. What percentage of Americans say they never doubt the existence of God?

15. What was Augustine's instruction, 1,600 years ago?



DQ

  • Do you think we all wear conceptual "spectacles" of some kind? If so, does that present a problem for the possibility of mutual understanding between ourselves and/or other kinds of knowers? 
  • Does the spectacles analogy work, given the impossibility of actually removing our conceptual spectacles or changing prescriptions?
  • Can we really achieve synthetic a priori knowledge from our armchairs? 114
  • If you help someone because you feel sorry for them, have you behaved morally? 116 What if, reflecting on why you feel sorry for them, you conclude that helping them would be the right thing to do?
  • Are there any moral rules you believe to be absolutely inviolable, never to be broken for any reason? Can you imagine a situation in which you think it would be right to lie, cheat, or steal?
  • Does history mean anything, either in advance or in retrospect? Is history (as Henry Ford said) "bunk"? Can we learn lessons from history that will enable us to avoid repeating past errors? Do you agree with George Santayana that if we don't learn from history's mistakes we're doomed to repeat them?
  • Is the world becoming more conscious, somehow? Does nature come to know itself through us?
  • If we could somehow know that the world had no ultimate purpose, would pessimism and despair be an appropriate response?
  • Do art, literature, and music have redemptive properties?




Jeremy Bentham





Bentham in 1790

The philosopher and jurist Jeremy Bentham (1748-1832) was born in Spitalfields, London, on 15 February 1748. He proved to be something of a child prodigy: while still a toddler he was discovered sitting at his father's desk reading a multi-volume history of England, and he began to study Latin at the age of three. At twelve, he was sent to Queen's College Oxford, his father, a prosperous attorney, having decided that Jeremy would follow him into the law, and feeling quite sure that his brilliant son would one day be Lord Chancellor of England.
Bentham, however, soon became disillusioned with the law, especially after hearing the lectures of the leading authority of the day, Sir William Blackstone (1723-80). Instead of practising the law, he decided to write about it, and he spent his life criticising the existing law and suggesting ways for its improvement. His father's death in 1792 left him financially independent, and for nearly forty years he lived quietly in Westminster, producing between ten and twenty sheets of manuscript a day, even when he was in his eighties. Many thousands of Bentham's manuscripts exist to this day, the majority of which are in two collections at UCL Library and at the British Library.
Bentham in 1827
Above: (right) Bentham in about 1790, aged about forty, and (left) in 1827, aged seventy-nine.

Work

Even for those who have never read a line of Bentham, he will always be associated with the doctrine of Utilitarianism and the principle of `the greatest happiness of the greatest number'. This, however, was only his starting point for a radical critique of society, which aimed to test the usefulness of existing institutions, practices and beliefs against an objective evaluative standard. He was an outspoken advocate of law reform, a pugnacious critic of established political doctrines like natural law and contractarianism, and the first to produce a utilitarian justification for democracy. He also had much to say of note on subjects as diverse as prison reform, religion, poor relief, international law, and animal welfare. A visionary far ahead of his time, he advocated universal suffrage and the decriminalisation of homosexuality.
By the 1820s Bentham had become a widely respected figure, both in Britain and in other parts of the world. His ideas were greatly to influence the reforms of public administration made during the nineteenth century, and his writings are still at the centre of academic debate, especially as regards social policy, legal positivism, and welfare economics.

Death

Bentham died on 6 June 1832, a day before the first Reform Act was given Royal Assent. As per the directions in his will, Bentham's body was dissected by his friend, the surgeon Thomas Southwood Smith, and his skeleton preserved as the Auto-Icon. Research into Bentham's thought and life continues today at UCL's Bentham Project, set up in the early 1960s with the aim of producing the first scholarly edition of his works and correspondence. This edition is projected to run to some eighty volumes!
Members of the public are invited to assist in this massive editorial task by helping to transcribe Bentham's manuscripts via a specially-adapted website: Transcribe Bentham.

Further reading:


The cost of happiness
Powerful interests benefit from our 
increased willingness to monitor and 
meddle with our mental states

Hudson Yard real estate project in New York City is set to be the most ambitious experiment yet in “quantified community”. Set to cater for 5,000 apartments, offices, retail space and a school, Hudson Yard will be built to enable maximal data-mining of its population. “Treating humans like white rats,” as William Davies puts it, “is now becoming integrated into the principles of urban planning.”

Davies’s new book shows how “managing our happiness” is becoming an increasingly lucrative and insidious industry. True to its subtitle, “How the Government and Big Business Sold Us Well-Being”, it exposes the powerful interests that benefit from our increased willingness to monitor and meddle with our mental states. But Davies takes us much further than this. It is not just that Hudson Yard will soon exist. It is the fact that this Panopticon project is being heralded as “social progress” and – most disturbingly – that people actually want to live there.

The Happiness Industry is the story of how we got here. Davies guides us through a cast of characters who took us forward in this zigzag journey. We start, naturally enough, with the founder of utilitarianism. We know Jeremy Bentham for his principle of “the greatest good for the greatest number”. Davies presents him as a forefather of the happiness industry. His ideas about the state and the free market working to punish and reward, through pleasure and pain, set the stage for “the entangling of psychological research and capitalism” that was to shape twentieth-century business... (continues)
– by Niki Seth-Smith
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A terrific book inspired by Kant's philosophy (I'm planning to use it next semester):

Why Grow Up?: Subversive Thoughts for an Infantile Age

Our culture is obsessed with youth-and why not? What's the appeal of growing old, of gaining responsibilities and giving up on dreams, of steadily trading possibility for experience?

The philosopher Susan Neiman argues that the absence of appealing models of maturity is not an accident: by describing life as a downhill process, we prepare young people to expect - and demand - very little from it. In Why Grow Up? she challenges our culture of permanent adolescence, turning to thinkers including Kant, Rousseau, and Arendt to find a model of maturity that is not a matter of resignation. In growing up, we move from the boundless trust of childhood to the peculiar mixture of disappointment and exhilaration that comes with adolescence. Maturity, however, means finding the courage to live in a world of painful uncertainty without giving in to dogma or despair. A grown-up, Neiman writes, helps to move the world closer to what it should be while never losing sight of what it is.

Why Grow Up? is a witty and concise argument for the value of maturity as a subversive ideal: a goal rarely achieved entirely, and all the more worth striving for.

160 comments:

  1. Jacob Hamm (H-03)

    [Are there any moral rules you believe to be absolutely inviolable, never to be broken for any reason? Can you imagine a situation in which you think it would be right to lie, cheat, or steal?]

    The example always cited in showing how strict the rule of truthfulness is "Never lie, even if it is to save someone's life - its only morally correct" doesn't make any sense to me. Wouldn't it also be morally correct to do anything you could, no matter your opinion of yourself (or even the opinion held by the person you saved, even if it was negative because of the lie) to save that person if you knew they were going to die? Furthermore, I'm not sure there is anyone so devoted to Kant's philosophy to actually disagree with you after having saved their life. I'm sure there is a point in the general adherence to the strict disavowment to lying, cheating, and stealing in everyday civil society, but not in a life-and-death situation, as commonly presented.

    What do you think? Am I taking it to literally, or would you be happy knowing I told a white lie to save your life?

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  2. Amber Lanese Molder9:43 PM CDT

    Does history mean anything, either in advance or in retrospect? Is history (as Henry Ford said) "bunk"? Can we learn lessons from history that will enable us to avoid repeating past errors? Do you agree with George Santayana that if we don't learn from history's mistakes we're doomed to repeat them?
    #H-03// History is important and teaches us about how our ancestors lived. What they went through and what choices they had to make, good or bad. It teaches lessons about defeat and triumph and which government, people, and type of society prevails. We learn lessons on an individual basis everyday. We learn which things are right and wrong, dangerous, acceptable (how we interpret these lessons vary). What is learned today will benefit us tomorrow because we’ve already been through it in the past. The point is the same in the opposing light. Whatever you neglect to learn today will continue to be a problem until you find a way to do it correctly/ with the desired outcome.

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    1. Hi Amber, I agree with you that the things we learn today will definitely help tomorrow, so we can refrain from making the same mistakes and what not. I can most definitely agree that things will continue to be a problem until you fix it!

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    2. Anonymous12:47 PM CST

      Section 11 Micah Chapman
      I think history definitely matters in retrospect it prevent or at least deters it from happening again if it is a bad event and encourages it if it a good one

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  3. Do you think we all wear conceptual "spectacles" of some kind? If so, does that present a problem for the possibility of mutual understanding between ourselves and/or other kinds of knowers?

    The idea of conceptual spectacles is nothing new to me. I remember having a conversation with someone about color for instance. We came to the conclusion that his 'blue' might not be the same as what I see when I see something 'blue'. Maybe my 'blue' is his 'red' and vis versa. Even if this were the case, I see no reason why this varying understanding of color would cause any problems. Ever since he was taught colors in elementary school he has been seeing his 'red' as my 'blue'. Yes we may actually SEE different colors but we both understand the concept that blue and red are both two different colors. H2

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    1. Hi Shawn, I agree with your explanation of how people may see things as different colors but the understanding that there are two different colors is the same.

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    2. I really like your take on this. I like the example you used because it is very true, everyone does not see the same thing.

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  4. Does the spectacles analogy work, given the impossibility of actually removing our conceptual spectacles or changing prescriptions?

    When I think of spectacles I think of something you can put on and take off at your leisure. When I think of my personal perspective on the world, I tend to think about the way the atoms in my eye are set up. It may not be the exact construct of someone else's eye. This is my unique way I take in light and thus the world. Some of us have the ability to 'try on' another's 'spectacles' for a period of time, whether that be in the form of a deep conversation with that person or reading a book written by that person or other such examples. Even with this it would be impossible to COMPLETELY understand the other's view because their spectacles can't change the way the atoms are set up in my retinas. It does give you an idea on how that other person sees the world. But beware, those who go around long enough wearing someone else's glasses are liable to experience headaches..
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  5. Can we really achieve synthetic a priori knowledge from our armchairs? 114

    It all depends on how many 'numbers' you have to work with. If 7+5=12 is an example of synthetic a priori then both the seven and the five must be thoroughly understood before coming to the conclusion that the sum of them together makes twelve. Likewise, we must deal with complex ideas in order to make coherent equations and formulas. It takes time to understand and set up these problems. Usually when something takes a while the one doing whatever would prefer to be comfortable while in the process. An armchair sounds nice right about now.. H2

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    1. Relevant article:
      http://www.philosophypages.com/hy/5f.htm

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    2. I definitely agree with you. It all comes down to what we work with. Complexity does make a difference here. Dealing with numbers that are simple will make it simple, but dealing with complex number will lead to complexity.

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  6. If we could somehow know that the world had no ultimate purpose, would pessimism and despair be an appropriate response?

    If the world had no purpose then it would be up to man to make his life purposeful. I mean sure, you'll have those people who will sit around moping or crying. That's easy. It's hard to be purposeful. It depends on the persons personal strength of will. Would you be one to mope or one to do? H2

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    1. Kevin Hernandez Ovalle HO2
      I agree with you Shawn. I personally wouldn’t mope around. What’s the point of wasting time to an already lost world. I would take advantage of every last minute we have. I think their is no point in despair. I try to always see everything in a positive point-of-view and I try to learn from my experiences. Of course their are certain situations that can’t be avoid without see something in a pessimistic point-of-view.

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      I agree Shawn. Purpose is something we create. Our evolutionary purpose is to live and procreate, our greater purpose is our own to discover.

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    3. Agreed. Whether there is a purpose or not, it would change nothing in my everyday life or how I live it. I would still try to make my time here meaningful to me, those I care about, and those who come after me. Those who mope are just upset they aren't cosmically or spiritually special in some way, it's kind of selfish if you think about it.

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    4. Anonymous12:50 PM CST

      Section 11 Micah Chapman
      I definitely think that it would be an appropriate response. There would be no point of living no meaning to push towards no goal to achieve.

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    5. I agree that we'd have to find a purpose. Purpose could be as simple of taking care of loved ones or having a successful career. No need to over complicate things!

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    6. I agree, everyone has to find their own purpose regardless of if their is no ultimate purpose for the world.

      Michael DeLay #5

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    7. It's up to you and no one else to make your own life purposeful. I would much rather try to find something to make my life enjoyable rather than wallow in self pity and pessimism.
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  7. Is the world becoming more conscious, somehow? Does nature come to know itself through us?

    I wouldn't say all that. I believe the degree to which one can be conscious has increased throughout the centuries. But also we have those who operate exclusively off of stimuli. With so many people neglecting deep thought, what does that truly say about the consciousness of man today? H2

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    1. I think it really depends on how one interprets consciousness, does nature as an entity as a whole have to think? Or is it conscious by the means of which it adapts from? Meaning nature comprises of many small components, be it plants, animals, or bacteria, they are a part of nature. Therefore, if nature's smaller components conform to us, to adapt to our presence in this world, is it not then adapting and coming to understand itself as a whole through us? Because we are the ones ultimately forcing adaptation to those organisms, ultimately making nature change as whole.

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    2. I do not think so. I actually think the world becomes less conscious now. We now have machines/instruments that do many things for us. We expect great things to happen out of nowhere. We do not seem to question this greatness, but we just take it for granted.

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    3. https://www.nbcnews.com/better/pop-culture/psychological-case-being-less-self-conscious-ncna847591

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  8. answering the DQ "What would persuade you that a person you'd met was the Jesus? What would you say to him?"


    I think that if I met Jesus and he didn't look like Jesus, with the robe, sandals and beard I mean, I would say hi. I often make conversation with new people, I know that everyone knows something I don't and has lived different than me so I really enjoy brain picking people. So if I was talking to Jesus and picking his brain, I think the give away would be the lack of judgement, lack of hate, and interest in people. Obviously I've never met Jesus but from the bible that is how I always imagined him, not judging, not hating any person, eager to listen and give advice. I would say thank you for saving humanity from sin, as a Christian how could I not? I'm not obligated but I would like to say thanks.

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    1. Anonymous12:53 PM CST

      Section 11 Micah Chapman
      For me it would take the world ending for me to believe that because that is the only time we are told he will come back.

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  9. Answering DQ "Do art, literature, and music have redemptive properties?"

    yes, absolutely. Art and Music have redemptive qualities. By this I mean art and music can bond people across language and time. I will answer this based on that assumption. So thinking about art, random piece, God giving life to Adam by Michelangelo. So this piece of art has been in existence for hundreds of years, people from all over the world through out time have seen it and cried below it, or been inspired, or reborn etc. So having all those people see the same work of art and have the same or different reaction is the most redemptive thing that could happen. Music is even more redemptive than art in my opinion, as in visual art I mean. For example the Clair De Lune by Claude Debussy was composed in 1890 and released in 1905, a piece of music I enjoy is over 110 years old. So the question of how many ears have heard it, fingers played it, how many countries has it spread to is an overwhelming question. People of all shapes,sizes and ideologies have heard it, from the Nazis to the Depression babies to presidents of the U.S. . Point being that one piece of music can relate people from across centuries. So if that is not redemptive I do not know what is.

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      I believe they can be redemptive in the sense that they can teach us something about ourselves or human nature.

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    2. Hi Chance, I can definitely agree that music and arts DO have a redemptive qualities and as Steven says, I can say that they do teach about nature and about one's self in a way that someone may not have thought of.

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    3. I believe literature, art, and music are all outlets for stress relief and creativity. Many people use these as a way to express themselves and cope with problems.
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  10. Answering DQ "Are there any moral rules you believe to be absolutely inviolable, never to be broken for any reason? Can you imagine a situation in which you think it would be right to lie, cheat, or steal?"

    Well there are few things id say I would never do, One of which is id never sexually assault anyone. But think about anything that is bad that needs to be done. For one lie, if someone asks "did you get me this present?" and you did, are you going to tell them? no, you aren't, you will probably lie. More serious, kill. Killing a person, no one in their right mind wants to kill a person right. But lets say a home intruder tried to ( god forbid ) do harm to a member of your family and they are intent on doing so, would you go to the furthest possible lengths to stop them? would you kill them? I think some people would answer yes. Point being I can imagine many situations where I could do something bad for good reason, its easy if you try.

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    1. Kevin Hernandez Ovalle HO2
      I completely understand you Chance. There are some circumstances that lying could fall under that would seem appropriate and most likely harmless. Just like you stated no one would kill, cheat, or steal for no apparent reason. Of course there are those type of people out there in the world who either do it for fun or for their own poersonal benefit. I personally wouldn’t ever do any of those things, but if it was for the greater good of a group of people, I think that;s when people start to cross lines and do things they never imagined to do

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    2. I agree. I personally think a harmless lie is acceptable. However, if you lie with a malicious intent, this is when it crosses the line.

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    3. I agree. I think everyone wants to avoid killing, but such scenarios of a intruder threatening your family complicates that. You can even say the death penalties complicates that rule as well.

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  11. answering DQ"If we could somehow know that the world had no ultimate purpose, would pessimism and despair be an appropriate response?"

    I don't know if I'd say appropriate, but I would understand them. But If a person found out the world had no ultimate purpose, I would look for the best thing, like comforting people or animals. Because if the world had no purpose, I would still think humans are intelligent beings that can be happy sad or angry, so try to make the human condition better is what I would do. I don't think the pessimists would be totally wrong, just different.

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    1. H02- I agree with you. I believe if I knew the world had no purpose I would definitely be more prone to understand people who turned to despair.

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    2. I would say yes. If there was no ultimate purpose, people would just do random things. I think everything would be so disorder. Since there is no greater purpose or goal, why would be strive to succeed or become better?

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    3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQk6t-9mQjE

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    4. I agree with Kerolos, I feel like people would do random things to maybe seek a goal of theirs.

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  12. Do you think we all wear conceptual "spectacles" of some kind? If so, does that present a problem for the possibility of mutual understanding between ourselves and/or other kinds of knowers?
    -It could be true. If so, then everyone would fundamentally see the world differently.

    Does the spectacles analogy work, given the impossibility of actually removing our conceptual spectacles or changing prescriptions?
    -It is a good analogy,but I would like to thin it's possible to change or take them off.

    Can we really achieve synthetic a priori knowledge from our armchairs
    -I didn't quite understand this metaphor. What is the armchair really?

    If you help someone because you feel sorry for them, have you behaved morally? 116 What if, reflecting on why you feel sorry for them, you conclude that helping them would be the right thing to do?
    Helping someone in need is moral. Helping someone because you feel obligated too is another thing entirely.

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    1. Section 9

      People have lots of reasons for being charitable. Sometimes it's just since others can see them doing it. As long as those people aren't causing harm when others aren't looking, I see no harm in helping someone to boost your ego, even if it might not be the best motive

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      I do see a problem in being charitable for your own egotistical purposes. I have known people like this who have become toxic in their mission to help people, and begun helping people who never asked or needed their help. This is demeaning, especially when they impose their charity unto others. I have also known people who have held their charity over the heads of those they helped, stating how they can never go against them because they helped them out that one time. I believe that unless charity is coming from a genuine place, it will become an issue that hurts more than helps.

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  13. (H02) Do art, literature, and music have redemptive properties?

    I would say that they do. Although there is definitely scientific evidence that confirms this, it is generally agreed that certain types of art, literature, and music can have a relaxing effect on the human body or otherwise contribute to some regenerative and redemptive function. It also can have a profound improvement on one's mental and emotional well being.

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    1. Kevin Hernandez Ovalle HO2
      I agree with you Ethan. It’s like why many parents play classic music for their children. Also I think music and even art and literature can have an effect on us in the redemptive category. It’s just like when people read, see, or hear something and it impacts their lives profoundly.

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    2. You are definitely right, there are certain cues and sections in music that just sound nice to us. It can actually cause us to be calm or peaceful, but the same vice versa, for example, rock or metal music gets your heart pumped. Therefore, isn't that evidence of itself that music can have varying properties? If music can get us riled up, calm, sleepy, etc, then who is to say it can help us redeem ourselves? But honestly, in terms of redemption, I believe it just helps us understand ourselves better, not in a sense of it literally redeems us.

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  14. Section 9
    Alternate DQ

    Do you think St Augustine's quote about specifics of Genesis is blasphemous? Do you think modern Christians could attribute the quote to a saint?

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  15. Abby Pittman Section 6
    Comment: As soon as I noticed we were discussing Immanuel Kant, I instantly thought of the tv show, The Good Place. It’s an excellent show and definitely one of my favorites. The main character, Eleanor, wakes up in “the good place” aka heaven, but she has a nagging feeling that she doesn’t belong there. She meets a new character named Chidi, who studied philosophy and focused on the teachings of Kant. Chidi speaks often about Kant’s ideas, and one of the main themes of the show is morality. If you haven’t already seen it, you should definitely check it out. It’s very interesting yet entertaining.

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  16. Abby Pittman section 6
    [DQ4]
    I understand Kant’s point of view when it comes to helping others because you pity them. It could insinuate that you are helping that person for the benefit of yourself whether there is a direct reward or if it is just simply feeling better about yourself. Helping someone should be an instant reaction, not something you have time to think about and create feelings for. It’s an instinct.

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  17. Abby Pittman section 6
    [DQ5]
    I don’t necessarily understand the argument against lying in cases where it protects someone. I don’t believe that you should lie to protect someone’s feelings though. For example, if you were to cheat on your significant other with someone else, you should definitely tell your significant other that the event occurred. You may end up divorced or separated from them, and their heart may be broken. However, they deserve the awareness of how you treat them in order to have the opportunity to separate from you. However, the example that Kant uses with the murderer is one I do not agree with. Maybe you shouldn’t create an answer for where your friend is hiding, but you definitely should not give away where they are hiding. Odds are that they will barge through the door anyways, so anything you may say could not benefit the issue. I just think there may be some loopholes within the morality of lying.

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  18. Abby Pittman section 6
    [DQ8]
    I don’t think it would be an “appropriate” response, but I do think more people would react that way. However, I could also see more people going after opportunities (that could be positive) that maybe they wouldn’t have before because they don’t have anxieties weighing them down. I think there’s too many amazing and beautiful aspects of the world to react with pessimism to everything.

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  19. DQ: If we could somehow know that the world had no ultimate purpose, would pessimism and despair be an appropriate response?
    I don't think pessimism would be appropriate. Whether or not the world had ultimate purpose, we can still create purpose for ourselves whatever that may be.

    DQ: Do art, literature, and music have redemptive properties?
    Absolutely, art is both good for the artist and the consumer. It is its own redemptive property.

    Alternative quiz questions:
    1. What was Reagan's tax plan jokingly called "voodoo economics" in the 1980 election?
    A: Cutting taxes to expand the economy and thereby increasing tax revenue

    2. Who wrote that "America's politics would now be also America's favorite movie" in response to JFK's election?
    A: Norman Mailer

    3. In the early 1990s what percentage of Americans used the internet?
    A: Less than 2%

    4. What percentage of Americans considered themselves agnostic or atheist in 2014?
    A: 7%

    5. What kind of person did George Marsden famously call "an evangelical who is angry about something?"
    A: fundamentalists

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  20. If you help someone because you feel sorry for them, have you behaved morally? 116 What if, reflecting on why you feel sorry for them, you conclude that helping them would be the right thing to do?
    I believe that if I am helping someone, I am helping them in a fit of compassion. I would ask myself if this is really the right way to help them. Every person needs help in different ways. By thinking of each person, I think I am behaving morally.

    Are there any moral rules you believe to be absolutely inviolable, never to be broken for any reason? Can you imagine a situation in which you think it would be right to lie, cheat, or steal?
    I believe that morally, people should be able to voice their thoughts without being ridiculed. There are situations in which we may need to lie. It may be that it is not our place to tell someone about something, or it may be that you know that the person would not benefit from hearing it. There are instances that you may need to withhold the truth, but I do think there are ways to tell the truth but also not tell the full story.

    Does history mean anything, either in advance or in retrospect? Is history (as Henry Ford said) "bunk"? Can we learn lessons from history that will enable us to avoid repeating past errors? Do you agree with George Santayana that if we don't learn from history's mistakes we're doomed to repeat them?
    I agree that history is important. Throughout history, we have seen connections between events. We have seen how history can, and will, repeat itself. By arming ourselves with knowledge, we can better navigate through difficult times in our history.

    Do art, literature, and music have redemptive properties?
    They definitely do. They are a way to relax and come together as a whole. It is a way to safely unpack all thoughts and carefully construct them back together. We may not be able to agree on other points, but we can agree on a type of art. We can appreciate for what it stands for.

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    1. DQ QUESTIONS:
      1. Do you think that the percentage of Christians noted to believe in God in FL is true? Why or why not?
      2. What do you think of all these Presidents discussed in FL? Are they delusional?
      3. Are you pessimistic by nature? Or optimistic? Can you be both?
      4. How often do you think people lie? Why do we lie?

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  21. McKayla Gallik
    Group 9 Democracy

    Discussion Questions
    1. What are your thoughts on democracy? How does it work in the United States compared to governments in other countries?

    2. Plato had a personal axe to grind. He was a disciple of the first great Greek philosopher Socrates who was executed by a democracy. In those days teachers of rhetoric saw their job as developing the oratorical and argumentative skills needed for participation in democratic politics. What are your thoughts on the first developing ideas of democracy compared to today?

    3. Do you feel that democracy has grown for better or for worse?

    Quiz Questions
    1. Q: What is the normative democracy theory?
    A: Normative democratic theory is inherently interdisciplinary and must call on the results of political science, sociology and economics in order to give this kind of concrete guidance.

    2. Q: What are the two types of instrumentalism benefits?
    A: Two kinds of in instrumental benefits are commonly attributed to democracy: relatively good laws and policies and improvements in the characters of the participants.

    3. Q: What philosophers argue against philosophy?
    A: Plato argues that democracy is inferior to various forms of monarchy, aristocracy and even oligarchy on the grounds that democracy tends to undermine the expertise necessary to properly governed societies. Hobbes argues that democracy is inferior to monarchy because democracy fosters destabilizing dissension among subjects.

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  22. Section 06

    Are there any moral rules you believe to be absolutely inviolable, never to be broken for any reason? Can you imagine a situation in which you think it would be right to lie, cheat, or steal?

    In my opinion I believe that taking someone else's work and saying that is yours as well as stealing from others (property, rights, etc.) is to never be broken. I would forgive someone if they stole to feed their family or themselves. If you have to lie, lie to save someone from heartbreak. I can't think of something I would forgive if you decided to cheat but if anybody can, leave a comment below.

    DQ Suggestion: Has there ever been a time that you regretted missing a whole day because you slept longer than expected, did something time consuming, etc.?

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  23. Section 06
    I found a website that talks about Robert Nozick
    https://www.iep.utm.edu/nozick/

    Here is a link about Jeremy Bentham talking about animal rights
    www.animalethics.org.uk/bentham.html

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  24. Do art, literature, and music have redemptive properties?

    Yes, humanities do many things, and redemption is just one of the many various effects it can have on us. When we listen to music it alters our emotions and thought processes, therefore it even has the method to redeem ourselves. They help us express ourselves in a harmless and rhetorical way so that we may see ourselves what we have created and thus understand ourselves betters as individuals.

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  25. Is the world becoming more conscious, somehow? Does nature come to know itself through us?

    Yes in a way, like all living organisms all things adapt and change to their environment, therefore because humans affect the world macro-ecosystem, nature itself would have to adhere to our scars and follies, and whatever it may that we do unto nature, nature will reform and adapt to fit that piece. Likewise, everything we do gives natures it's identity.

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  26. If we could somehow know that the world had no ultimate purpose, would pessimism and despair be an appropriate response?

    No, people tend to like to think there is a greater purpose but if there is not so what? We have our goals as a species, not as a being of the world, to promote and advance our race. We care for our families, friends, loved ones, etc. There is no worldly ultimate goal for them, but rather personal goals, and that is okay. We don't need grand schemes, sometimes what you got in front of your is the ultimate goal for you.

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      I agree. We make our own purpose. I doubt there's some grand design or outcome that we're barreling towards

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  27. Are there any moral rules you believe to be absolutely inviolable, never to be broken for any reason? Can you imagine a situation in which you think it would be right to lie, cheat, or steal?

    Killing someone is something humans shouldn't do, yet needs to be done under the right circumstances. Aka Deviations in the genetic code and behavioral processes making tyrants like murderers, rapists, etc. Sometimes people just need to be stopped, completely, because they won't listen to reason or lack the empathy to do so. Regrettably, we as humans will have to do what is necessary to protect our family, therefore killing is wrong nut right for the right reasons.

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  28. Sect. 10
    Do you think we all wear conceptual "spectacles" of some kind? If so, does that present a problem for the possibility of mutual understanding between ourselves and/or other kinds of knowers?

    I think we all wear a form of conceptual “spectacles” whether we undertsand it or not. However, I don’t think it prevents us from knowing and understanding other kinds of knowers, but rather help us be open-minded and listen to others.

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  29. Sect. 10
    Do art, literature, and music have redemptive properties?

    I think so. All three satisfy humans to a great degree and can offer great peace to people.

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  30. Sect. 10
    If we could somehow know that the world had no ultimate purpose, would pessimism and despair be an appropriate response?
    I don’t think despair would be appropriate. Instead, we should try to make purpose of the world.

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  31. Sect. 10
    Is the world becoming more conscious, somehow? Does nature come to know itself through us?
    I think the world is becoming more conscious, but I think nature knows itself and doesn’t need us for her to know herself. People are becoming more aware of the globe’s problems and are slowly coming together to fix them.

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  32. Sect. 10
    Does history mean anything, either in advance or in retrospect? Is history (as Henry Ford said) "bunk"? Can we learn lessons from history that will enable us to avoid repeating past errors? Do you agree with George Santayana that if we don't learn from history's mistakes we're doomed to repeat them?

    I think history is absolutely crucial to humanity because it tells what we did and how we got to our present state. I don’t think it is true that history will repeat itself, but rather that we will learn from previous bad decisions.

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  33. Sect. 10
    Are there any moral rules you believe to be absolutely inviolable, never to be broken for any reason? Can you imagine a situation in which you think it would be right to lie, cheat, or steal?

    I think there are definite moral rules such as: one should not kill, unless to defend for oneself, one should protect nature, and one should try to respect others and their beliefs. I think there are certain situatons in which a person may have to cheat, steal, or lie if it helps protect a life.

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  34. Sect. 10
    If you help someone because you feel sorry for them, have you behaved morally? 116 What if, reflecting on why you feel sorry for them, you conclude that helping them would be the right thing to do?
    I think if you help someone because you feel sorry for them, I think you may be behaving poorly if they have not aseked for our help. If you are truly convinced that it is the right thing to do, then it may be morally correct.

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  35. Sect. 10
    Can we really achieve synthetic a priori knowledge from our armchairs?

    I think the best way to achieve to priori knowledge is to be involved in the question. When one is on at the armchair, they aren’t exactly gaining knowledge practically.

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  36. Sect. 10
    Does the spectacles analogy work, given the impossibility of actually removing our conceptual spectacles or changing prescriptions?

    I think it still works because one can work around the spectacles to still gain knowledge of the world and the Universe.

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  37. 1030-10
    I found a few youtube links about Kant, Hegel and Schopenhaur.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bIys6JoEDw
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-a739VjqdSI
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaDvRdLMkHs
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjQwedC1WzI
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TFCMK4i2lo
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trqDnLNRuSc
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQ2fvTvtzBM
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1Q4d8AubIY
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thuAEeJCcck
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgfSCZV6BwQ
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvmz5E75ZIA
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5JGE3lhuNo
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARarjQYOhA4
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNDw9lO8uKg

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  38. Phil-10

    Do art, literature, and music have redemptive properties?

    Of course, these art styles have many influences to save people. There are mental health benefits to listening to different types of music. Probably by what thoughts you can analyze and contemplate them.

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    1. To express emotions and beliefs that would question life and experiences.

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  39. Lesley Walker - Section 10
    If you help someone because you feel sorry for them, have you behaved morally? 116 What if, reflecting on why you feel sorry for them, you conclude that helping them would be the right thing to do?

    I think that as long as you help someone to actually help them, and not for malicious reasons or for personal gain, it is for the right reason. You can feel bad for someone and still help them for the right reason. I think by helping others, and putting them before ourselves is a moral action that more people should do.

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  40. Section 13

    DQ: Are there any moral rules you believe to be absolutely inviolable, never to be broken for any reason? Can you imagine a situation in which you think it would be right to lie, cheat, or steal?

    There are no rules that are absolutely inviolable. I think of a parent who steals food to feed their starving child. It would be far more immoral to let a child die when you could do something about it, even if there were negative consequences, like going to jail. I also think it speaks to the morality of those around them: Is the owner of the food immoral for not sharing and pressing charges against a desperate parent/child? Would the police be moral or immoral for enforcing the law that imprisons the parent, given the illegal act saved the life of a child? Morality is always dependent of the circumstance.

    DQ: Does the spectacles analogy work, given the impossibility of actually removing our conceptual spectacles or changing prescriptions?

    Yes, our perception of the world is what makes up our understanding of reality. We each see things a little different and will always have some sort of “filter” we process the world’s information through. For example, due to family and community influence, one can perceive a homeless person as either: (a) someone who had bad things happen to them and is need of help, or (b) see them as someone who is dealing with the consequences of their own choices. These are assumptions based on limited experiences, our glasses, and can’t be "removed" until homeless is experienced for themselves in some way. Even then, that will only provide a limited understanding.

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  41. Section 12

    DQ: If we could somehow know that the world had no ultimate purpose, would pessimism and despair be an appropriate response?

    I don’t think so. There is definitely a negative way to spin it, but I don’t think it is a good way to respond. If the world had no ultimate purpose, that doesn’t mean you can’t carve out your own personal purpose and what that means to you. If anything, not having an overarching, universal “plan” is in a way more freeing as an individual.

    DQ: Do art, literature, and music have redemptive properties?

    I absolutely love music, art, and literature because I do feel it has some redemptive properties, at least on a personal level. Art, literature, and music, has a special way of reaching our emotions and helping us reflect on values, principles, experiences, more deeply than we may do on a daily basis. It helps me evaluate my life and reconnect with myself. It feels like a healing process in a way.

    COMMENT: Here is an interesting video about Hegel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q54VyCpXDH8

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  42. Section 13

    If you help someone because you feel sorry for them, have you behaved morally? What if, reflecting on why you feel sorry for them, you conclude that helping them would be the right thing to do?
    - I believe that if you help someone just to make yourself feel like a good person, and not for the fact that that person needs help, there's something wrong with that. Not that there is anything wrong with feeling good about helping others. But, if the only reason that you help someone is for your own personal gain, and not actually thinking about the other person, thats just selfish.

    Are there any moral rules you believe to be absolutely inviolable, never to be broken, for any reason? Can you imagine a situation in which you think it would be right to lie, cheat, or steal?
    - Yes, I think there are obvious rules of the world that are never meant to be broken. I think a Robin Hood type situation could justify stealing. Taking from the rich to give to the poor.

    If we could somehow know that the world had no ultimate purpose, would pessimism and despair be an appropriate response?
    - I believe there would be a lot of rightful anger in the world, but I don't think pessimism and despair would necessarily be the appropriate response. I think you would just have to accept that thats your situation and try your best to make the best of it.

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  43. 13
    If you help someone because you feel sorry for them, have you behaved morally? 116 What if, reflecting on why you feel sorry for them, you conclude that helping them would be the right thing to do?

    For me personally, I am an "ends justify the means" sort of guy. I look at the result not the reasoning behind the action, because when it's said and done the result is the same.

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  44. 13
    Are there any moral rules you believe to be absolutely inviolable, never to be broken for any reason? Can you imagine a situation in which you think it would be right to lie, cheat, or steal?

    I do not think there is any absolute rules. Sometimes to lie, cheat, or steal can be necessary given the outcome.

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  45. 13
    https://www.khanacademy.org/partner-content/wi-phi/wiphi-value-theory/wiphi-good-life/v/the-good-life-kant

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  46. 12
    Do you think we all wear conceptual "spectacles" of some kind? If so, does that present a problem for the possibility of mutual understanding between ourselves and/or other kinds of knowers?
    All of our opinions are effected by biases we have gathered from our perception of the world. There are many challenges when communicating with others and our biases are definitely part of that.

    Does the spectacles analogy work, given the impossibility of actually removing our conceptual spectacles or changing prescriptions?
    The spectacles analogy only works if you don't think about it too much and you don't consider the impossibilities of removing them.

    Are there any moral rules you believe to be absolutely inviolable, never to be broken, for any reason? Can you imagine a situation in which you think it would be right to lie, cheat, or steal?
    No. I feel like many people are afraid to admit just how arbitrary many of the rules and morals we live our lives by are. I don't think that means we shouldn't have law but we must recognize the malleable nature of it.

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  47. Section 12 Daniel Dupuy

    If we could somehow know that the world had no ultimate purpose, would pessimism and despair be an appropriate response?
    I think it wouldn't; it would be a waste of time. Just like Epicurus said, i think we are wasting our time alive if we aren't making the best of it.
    HOWEVER, if we are talking about Philosophical pessimism- anti-optimism, not necessarily pessimist- I would say it is an appropriate response.
    Do art, literature, and music have redemptive properties?
    I think yes- literature can be ignorance's redemption. Music can be stress' and self expression's redemption.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pessimism

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  48. Section 13
    Can we learn lessons from history that will enable us to avoid repeating past errors?

    I do believe that learning history and things that went wrong can keep us from falling into the same mistakes. Unfortunately, most of the time people do not use their knowledge of the past to help inform future decisions, but I do believe it is better to know what has happened in the past rather than not.

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  49. Section 13
    Are there any moral rules you believe to be absolutely inviolable, never to be broken for any reason? Can you imagine a situation in which you think it would be right to lie, cheat, or steal?

    I do not believe there are any moral rules that are absolutely invoilable. There are plenty of situations when morals and what would be the "right" thing to do become muddy and hard to determine. There are many times when the right thing to do interferes with what is needed to survive, or with keeping people you love safe and happy. Morals are a nice guide, but never absolute.

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  50. Do art, literature, and music have redemptive properties?
    I believe they do have redemptive properties. I often believe that the arts have a saving grace spect to them. Music has a soothing aspect to it and tends to calm people down, hence why some would consider music to be a life saver and to keep them from doing something bad. Others choose art to express themselves. Instead of keeping everything bottled up, they let their emotions out through their art. For literature, it is deemed as an escape from reality. People say they can get lost in another world while reading a book, so there has to be something good about that.

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  51. Does history mean anything, either in advance or in retrospect? Is history (as Henry Ford said) "bunk"? Can we learn lessons from history that will enable us to avoid repeating past errors? Do you agree with George Santayana that if we don't learn from history's mistakes we're doomed to repeat them?

    History has a lot of meaning to it and it is important for everyone to know most aspects of history. Especially political, economically, environmental and war history because these main aspects are what are affecting us today. I do agree that if we don't learn from our mistakes then we are doomed to repeat them. We can see this in today's society with our current political state.
    We also see it in our environment. Past scientists predicted the rise of global temperatures from greenhouse gas emissions yet nobody listened and now our environment is reaching a point of no return in global warming and in climate change.
    Learning from our history is very important.

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    1. I think you're right, history has immense meaning and it's foolish to not take the opportunity to learn from the past and apply it to the future. Although, I definitely do believe that we often fall victim to hindsight bias, in which we see past events as more predictable than they actually were. Sometimes, even when we do try to learn from our mistakes, it can still be extremely difficult to understand the entirety of the situation while we're living it, and it is only after that we become fully aware of what was happening and the actions we should have taken.

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    2. I think history is very important. I feel like it can be valuable to learn from others mistakes so that you don't make them on your own. Why would you want to repeat something that you already know has an unfavorable outcome? It's important to be informed and not make mistakes out of ignorance when you have credible resources.
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  52. Logan Taylor Section 1112:14 PM CST

    1. Who spent his life criticizing the existing law and suggesting ways for its improvement?

    2. Who wrote about social policy, legal positivism, and welfare economics?

    Do art, literature, and music have redemptive properties?

    Often times, people's lives can be changed by reading a specific book, listening to a life-changing song or looking at a very thought-provoking piece of art. People can go see the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel and can have a completely life-altering experience.

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  53. Section 12

    DQ: If we could somehow know that the world had no ultimate purpose, would pessimism and despair be an appropriate response?

    I think choosing pessimism and despair is a choice. Just because life doesn’t have any ultimate purpose, doesn’t mean we are doomed or that life is bad. I think that it actually opens up one’s potential to find out what life means to them and to choose their own priorities, since there isn’t some overarching purpose they have to fulfill.

    DQ: Does history mean anything, either in advance or in retrospect? Is history (as Henry Ford said) "bunk"? Can we learn lessons from history that will enable us to avoid repeating past errors? Do you agree with George Santayana that if we don't learn from history's mistakes we're doomed to repeat them?

    I do not think that history is “bunk.” I think it is important that we try to understand history that we can learn from it. I do agree with George Santayana that we are bound to repeat mistakes if we don’t learn from it.

    DQ: Do you think we all wear conceptual "spectacles" of some kind? If so, does that present a problem for the possibility of mutual understanding between ourselves and/or other kinds of knowers? 

    I think that we do to some degree. I think we tend to mold our lives around what we think and believe about the world, which might make it harder for us to look outside of ourselves and see another perspective.

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  54. Section 12
    Do art, literature, and music have redemptive properties?
    I would say so.

    Are there any moral rules you believe to be absolutely inviolable, never to be broken for any reason? Can you imagine a situation in which you think it would be right to lie, cheat, or steal?
    I think so, I think depending on the situation it is okay to lie, cheat, and steal. It shouldn't be often and it comes down to ethics.

    If you help someone because you feel sorry for them, have you behaved morally? 116 What if, reflecting on why you feel sorry for them, you conclude that helping them would be the right thing to do?

    I think I behaved morally, and it depends on the situation.

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    1. I agree with you on behaving morally, I think that it all depends on the situation on why you are helping that person. Even if you feel bad for them, what you are doing isn't always moral.

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  55. Section 12
    If you help someone because you feel sorry for them, have you behaved morally? 116 What if, reflecting on why you feel sorry for them, you conclude that helping them would be the right thing to do?
    I think it's not about behaving morally, it's about helping others when you can for the sake of humanity.

    Are there any moral rules you believe to be absolutely inviolable, never to be broken for any reason? Can you imagine a situation in which you think it would be right to lie, cheat, or steal? Respecting people's property, life and liberty is, in my opinion, is the most important norm and the right thing to do. In my opinion, there are no reasons or free passes for others to take away any of the 3- of course unless you're a bank, and someone goes bankrupt.

    https://www.crf-usa.org/foundations-of-our-constitution/natural-rights.html

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  56. Riley Fox1:19 PM CST

    "If we could somehow know that the world had no ultimate purpose, would pessimism and despair be an appropriate response?"

    If we are just assuming, the world, itself, has no purpose, then the above statement would be true. As a society, I believe that we can generate a purpose for ourselves to impact the world. For example, making the world a better place for future generation and several others.

    "Do you agree with George Santayana that if we don't learn from history's mistakes we're doomed to repeat them?"

    I completely agree with this rational. Over the course of history, we can see similarities in several events. More than likely every event has a very interwoven event in morals,ethics, or physical outcomes. Also, as individuals, we know "nothing" in the grand scheme of other peoples lives in the past and what will happen in our future, so shouldn't we learn from our ancestors mistakes so we can progress as a society. Other wise we are living in ignorant insanity.

    "Are there any moral rules you believe to be absolutely inviolable"

    I believe there are situations that make your moral standings to be breakable. The simplest way I can explain it, is when you are putting yourself in a situation where you have to chose between two different essential morals. My first example, let us say you are a pacifist, but you are getting attacked by a murderer, do you break your moral code against violence to survive or potentially kill your aggressor. Another example be, you are starving, but you don't steal, and you haven't eaten in days except for drinking water. Do you steal food from somewhere or continue to suffer? Sure, these are radical but it still proves a valid point against the question at hand.

    "If you help someone because you feel sorry for them, have you behaved morally?"

    Regarding generosity, studies have shown that people’s willingness to donate to a charitable cause is reduced if, beforehand, they wrote a short story about themselves using morally positive words (e.g., fair, kind) than if they wrote a short story about themselves using morally negative words (selfish, mean). The same thing happened if people simply thought about an instance in which they behaved morally rather than immorally. When people’s self-image of being moral is top of mind, they feel licensed to behave in less than moral ways.

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  57. If you help someone because you feel sorry for them, have you behaved morally? 116 What if, reflecting on why you feel sorry for them, you conclude that helping them would be the right thing to do?


    I think that the reason you are helping someone depends on why you are helping them. Just because you feel bad for someone does not mean that it is the morally right thing to do. For example, if you are helping someone do an illegal activity just because you feel bad for them is not a moral thing to do. But i do believe that you can help someone because you feel bad for them because most of the time it is for good rather than bad.

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  58. Does history mean anything, either in advance or in retrospect? Is history (as Henry Ford said) "bunk"? Can we learn lessons from history that will enable us to avoid repeating past errors?

    I think that history has a meaning in advance or retrospect because it can help us in the future, with our future problems. I think that history is a very important part of human life, without history we are not able to learn from our mistakes. I think that it is possible to learn from history but I think that people do not usually take action because of history. It has a tendency to become forgotten and put in the back of our minds.

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  59. Are there any moral rules you believe to be absolutely inviolable, never to be broken for any reason? Can you imagine a situation in which you think it would be right to lie, cheat, or steal?

    I think murdering someone is one of those inviolable moral rules. In an instance where this moral rule can be saved by lying, I think lying is justified. For instance, if Hitler asked you where your Jewish best friend was, you should lie to protect them.

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  60. Do art, literature, and music have redemptive properties?

    I certainly think so. Art, literature, and music can all be used as a form of escape from problems people are dealing with. With all of thee examples, people can envision themselves in a better place, away from their struggles.

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    1. #5 I agree with you, some may use them as an escape or maybe others to even get to know a part of themselves they didn't know was there.

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  61. #5
    Do art, literature, and music have redemptive properties?
    i believe they do, the type of redemptive properties depends on how a person may be using them. They can help someone with realizing more than what they already know about themselves, or even just simply calm them.

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  62. #5
    Is the world becoming more conscious, somehow? Does nature come to know itself through us?
    I think the world is coming more conscious, everyone seems to question thing more often, and I've noticed more people being open to others, and being more open minded .In a way I do think nature comes to know itself through us, however I also think it knows everything it needs to know, and we are just adding on by questioning and trying to come up with an explanation for everything.

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  63. #5
    If we could somehow know that the world had no ultimate purpose, would pessimism and despair be an appropriate response?

    I still don't think pessimism and despair would be an appropriate response. Even though there may be no actual purpose, I think making one for yourself would be the best response, especially with all aspects of life and nature fitting so perfectly. We are given this life, and even if at the end there may be no purpose, there always is one for yourself.

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  64. Do you think we all wear conceptual "spectacles" of some kind? If so, does that present a problem for the possibility of mutual understanding between ourselves and/or other kinds of knowers?

    Oh yes, I think we all see the world through "spectacles" or a filter of some kind. Our spectacles' model and prescription are all one of a kind, fashioned by our personal experiences and unique vantage points that we've see life from. I think that this universally shared experience of having to navigate life through spectacles enables us to at least somewhat understand or empathize with the perspective of another, even if our distinctive spectacles can result in confusion, disagreements, and illusions at times. I believe that we have the power to adjust the focus when we make an effort, or we can choose to remain living through the comfort of our own lenses.

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  65. Do you think we all wear conceptual "spectacles" of some kind? If so, does that present a problem for the possibility of mutual understanding between ourselves and/or other kinds of knowers?

    I think we all wear some conceptual spectacles, that is what makes us looks at things differently from others. Of course that could cause misunderstanding between us.

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    1. I agree, that is why we are able to learn more things and grow to understand one another is because we all look at the world differently.

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      I agree everyone has creative view points.
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  66. If you help someone because you feel sorry for them, have you behaved morally? 116 What if, reflecting on why you feel sorry for them, you conclude that helping them would be the right thing to do?

    I think Kant's being a bit too harsh on his ethical views. He believed that feeling sympathy for someone who is injured is not morally right. I think you can be morally right helping others because it is your duty and because you feel sympathy for the person. It is a person's instinct to feel that way. I think if you reflect on why you feel sorry for them, that would be doing it out of duty and sympathy.

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    1. There's a huge difference between sympathy and empathy. Very very few have both, and I agree with the way you view it.

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  67. If you help someone because you feel sorry for them, have you behaved morally? 116 What if, reflecting on why you feel sorry for them, you conclude that helping them would be the right thing to do?
    I don't believe so, but doing it for the right reasons is always the most moral thing. You have to do it because its the right thing to do not do it out of pity.
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    1. My opinion is pretty similar. I don't agree with Kant on his belief that emotions don't count when it comes to morality. Even if you only help someone because you feel sorry for them, I still think this should be considered as a moral action. But I agree, choosing to do the moral thing, not because your emotions are pushing you to do so but because you understand that it is your duty, is the most moral action.

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  68. If we could somehow know that the world had no ultimate purpose, would pessimism and despair be an appropriate response?
    I personally believe in God and that there is a higher purpose in life, but if someone were to believe that I do not think pessimism is the best form of action. The world would go into chaos and no one would get anywhere in life. You have to make the best out of every situation.
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      that was worded nicely I do agree with what you said.
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  69. Do art, literature, and music have redemptive properties?
    Yes I believe they do. In many religions music is used as praise, literature is used as their words from their gods or deities, and art is used as sculptures or paintings or statues of the ones they are praying to.
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  70. Is the world becoming more conscious, somehow? Does nature come to know itself through us?
    conscious means aware of and responding to one's surroundings.
    after understanding the definition i dont think we are with everyone being suck into their own personnel life and constantly looking at their phones they aren't aware of their surroundings.

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    1. I agree. It seems like everyone else was obsessed with the "perfect picture" instead of taking into consideration what gives them that perfect picture. But with what is going on now, it seems like everyone is now turning back to nature.

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    2. Yea, in today's society people are constantly focused on their phones and on social media. It is just the culture that we are in now a days. I do believe there are still many that go out and enjoy the outdoors and go hiking and seriously appreciate nature.

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  71. Are there any moral rules you believe to be absolutely inviolable, never to be broken for any reason? Can you imagine a situation in which you think it would be right to lie, cheat, or steal?

    treat others , how you would like to be treated. i think can sum everything up. i think this would be the most important one to have.

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    1. Hey Ty, I completely agree with you. While it can be difficult sometimes and I break the rule all the time, it's a great moral rule which is definitely inviolable. I really cannot think of a situation where it wouldn't be applicable because hopefully the person you're most honest and fair with is yourself.

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  72. If we could somehow know that the world had no ultimate purpose, would pessimism and despair be an appropriate response?

    I do not think so. I think most people would rejoice in having the answer to what the meaning of life is; nothing. It would be freeing. It would be interesting to see how people would respond though, I'm sure some would throw their moral codes out the window and steal and murder just because they can. Would governments still exist? What would we do with all the new empty church buildings? But nonetheless, there would be no reason to be depressed that there's no meaning to life because there's nothing you can do about it.

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  73. Do you agree with George Santayana that if we don't learn from history's mistakes we're doomed to repeat them?

    Absolutely. I think history continuously repeats itself; mainly because people refuse to learn from history and reject what it is telling them because they are selfish and ignorant. Take people invading Russia during their summer (winter) France and Napoleon, Germany in WW1 and WW2 and the list goes on, they all lost and had crazy death counts. There is a lot to be learned from history. People today still fly the Confederate flag, it's not a symbol of "southern pride" as some would claim, it was the battle flag for an army that wanted to enslave an entire race. Why do you think we have history class and go over the same topics most of the time, because people still don't learn.

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    1. I completely agree. History is constantly ongoing and with that, history can get a little flipped. The Confederate flag example you used is a perfect way to show that.

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  74. Do you think we all wear conceptual "spectacles" of some kind? If so, does that present a problem for the possibility of mutual understanding between ourselves and/or other kinds of knowers?

    I think those "spectacles" are all how we are raised. I think it has a lot to do with our raising. Each of us have a different perspective and viewpoint that comes from the values and ethics that are built into us as children. It definitely has to affect our relationships and how we understand others viewpoints, because we can only fathom and understand the things that we understand and perceive.

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    1. I also believe that the way in which we're raised and what we experience when we're growing up plays a significant role in the fashioning of our spectacles. The spectacles of someone raised in a loving family where their opinions were valued and their talents praised would see the world as more benevolent and trusting than someone who grew up surrounded by people trying to take advantage of them. Their spectacles would show a much more deceitful and heartless world.

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  75. Do you think we all wear conceptual "spectacles" of some kind? If so, does that present a problem for the possibility of mutual understanding between ourselves and/or other kinds of knowers?

    i think we all do wear a conceptual spectacle through which we view life. everyone has a different perspective over a certain idea or topic because we are all different. people will group together that have similar spectacles because they can agree upon it. this does pose a challenge for coming to a mutual understanding between ourselves and over ideas. this is reflected in for example political parties and their disagreements. (section #6)

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  76. Are there any moral rules you believe to be absolutely inviolable, never to be broken for any reason? Can you imagine a situation in which you think it would be right to lie, cheat, or steal?

    i think personally that there are no moral rules that are absolutely indefinitely inviolable because i believe an infinite amount of possibilities are possible and given that the possibility to break a seemingly strong moral rule and commit something immoral is a possibility. it is possible for a situation to arise where you might have to break these rules for survival and i feel like you should be able to do that if its absolutely necessary for you to do. (section #6)

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    1. I agree, and I think this answer is well thought out. There are infinite possibilities and outcomes to situations and nobody's perfect. Eventually you might have to break those rules you have set for yourself.

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  77. If we could somehow know that the world had no ultimate purpose, would pessimism and despair be an appropriate response?

    i already function under the presumption that the world has no ultimate purpose, of course i dont know this for a fact but nevertheless that is my belief. pessimism and despair is definitely not my response to this idea, i instead just simply exist in this world and when i die i will cease to exist, nothing more nothing less. i feel the proper response would be to just live a life that results in achievable happiness to you. (section #6)

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  78. Can we learn lessons from history that will enable us to avoid repeating past errors? Do you agree with George Santayana that if we don't learn from history's mistakes we're doomed to repeat them?

    yes of course i believe we can learn lessons from history because we know the outcome of past events and faced with those same events in the future we can be better prepared to face them. but in addition to this i dont think that human nature will let us do this easily because i believe when faced with those events maybe our ego will take control and we might think we are better than those of past persons and make those same mistakes with the idea that different results will occur due to us being better now somehow. (section #6)

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      I agree that was worded perfectly.
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  79. Anonymous3:42 PM CDT

    Do art, literature, and music have redemptive properties?
    I do believe that art, literature, and music do have the properties because it helps find peace and relaxes you. They give a way to express yourself in a way you can't through just words.
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    1. I Agree, many people turn to the arts in order to express themselves, in doing this, people receive closure and puts them at ease. An example that comes to mind is smokers, how they find it difficult to keep their hands busy, they might pick up a brush to help them redeem themselves from said addiction.
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  80. Is the world becoming more conscious, somehow? Does nature come to know itself through us?

    I believe that nature come to know itself, just like how we learned the cycle of life in Biology. Nature adapt to itself through us. Because we are the one that abuse Nature.

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    1. I agree, nature has been forced to adapt around us. However, If we go back to before the industrial revolution, and the example of the Galapagos finches. Nature sees the differences that its regions affects its creatures. Adaptation was going on before the human race knew about it.
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  81. Do art, literature, and music have redemptive properties?
    Yes, I do believe that they have redemptive properties on us. Meaning, things that are valuable to our life, like a particular song that makes you sleep, or a speech that motive you, or maybe an art that might represent who you are. By all means, if they mean something in a part of your life, they will have redemptive properties.

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    1. I couldn't agree more. You hear all the time that people are inspired by a song in which it got them through tough times. Also, a lot of successful people reflect on certain books that sparked an idea or motivation inside of them to get where they are today.

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  82. 12. For what American president was "the world of legend and myth a real world"?
    A: Ronald Reagan
    13. What made it possible, beginning in the '90s, for "cockamamie ideas and outright falsehoods" to spread fast and wide?
    A:WorldW Wide Web

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  83. Do you think we all wear conceptual "spectacles" of some kind? If so, does that present a problem for the possibility of mutual understanding between ourselves and/or other kinds of knowers?
    - It does feel like we have spectated at some point in life to in understanding or learning something new. The concept used to teach you a new life skill is that of the person who taught you said skill. This is not a bad thing, for every one has their own way of learning and teaching. These conceptual glasses can be passed on and can help others when they cannot understand something new, it gives them a different perspective.

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  84. Folks, I appreciate your thoughtful comments here.

    BUT, to the few who are posting very short one-sentence comments to the effect of "I agree," please be advised that this minimal contribution to the discussion really falls short of the spirit of philosophical conversation. Tell us WHY you agree or disagree, and give us at least a paragraph.

    Also: no need to post answers to the quiz questions. Just take note of the relevant texts that address them. I'm far more interested in your responses to discussion questions, and to your comments in response to classmates.

    Stay focused, all, and stay healthy.

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  85. If we could somehow know that the world had no ultimate purpose, would pessimism and despair be an appropriate response?
    -To come to find out that the world had no purpose would not and should not lead to despair or pessimism. Since we are not told that the world has a purpose and yet we still move forward, to find out the world has no purpose would not lead to the world coming to a stop.

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  86. Are there any moral rules you believe to be absolutely inviolable, never to be broken for any reason? Can you imagine a situation in which you think it would be right to lie, cheat, or steal?

    I disagree with Kant, in that I believe there are certain situations that warrant lying, cheating, and stealing. In my opinion, the only moral rule that could be argued to be inviolable is keep your promises. I feel that promises are important and ought to be taken seriously and, as long as you morally and accurately judge the promise your making, there isn't an excuse for breaking it. However, I do believe that lying, cheating, and stealing are justified if you're doing it for the sake of another's well-being or for the sake of the greater good. I think the example of lying to a murderer about your friend's whereabouts in order to save them is absolutely justifiable. The view that it's your duty to tell the murderer the truth is ridiculous to me. No, your duty is to help your friend.

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  87. If we could somehow know that the world had no ultimate purpose, would pessimism and despair be an appropriate response?

    Yes, I think this type of response would be justified. Human beings are greatly motivated by hope and comforted by the prospect of something greater at play. If we could somehow know with complete certainty that life and the universe had no ultimate purpose then I think many people would see life as pointless and adopt a pessimistic outlook. But while it is justified, I do not think it is the practical or right-minded view to adopt. Fortunately, I know that, despite this knowledge, many of us will just choose to find our own meaning and purpose and might even view this as a reason to live as freely and open-minded as possible.

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    1. I agree with your stance on the feeling of pointlessness that would surround people if there was no purpose to anything. I think having your own purpose and trying to achieve goals is what keeps certain people going.

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  88. Are there any moral rules you believe to be absolutely inviolable, never to be broken for any reason? Can you imagine a situation in which you think it would be right to lie, cheat, or steal?

    I believe that stealing is an act the should never be violated. You are taking something from someone who's life could depend on the sale of the item. I everyone was able to steal, we would live in the most corrupt society ever. The only justification for stealing could be in a parent was forced to steal food for their kid and that kid's life depended on that food.

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  89. If we could somehow know that the world had no ultimate purpose, would pessimism and despair be an appropriate response?

    I think it is kind of sad to think about the world having no ultimate purpose. But I think its up to each individual person to decide on how they want to live their life and what their own purpose is.

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  90. If you help someone because you feel sorry for them, have you behaved morally? 116 What if, reflecting on why you feel sorry for them, you conclude that helping them would be the right thing to do?

    You would be helping someone to ease your own worries. You're not doing it to be kind you are just helping yourself to ease the burden. Yes, it is nice that you helped them but you did not do it morally for them. Subconsciously you did it to help yourself. Always help people but do not act like it was solely for the sake of the other person.

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  91. Are there any moral rules you believe to be absolutely inviolable, never to be broken for any reason? Can you imagine a situation in which you think it would be right to lie, cheat, or steal?

    I feel like depending on the situation it would be better and safer to lie. Some people are put into situations where telling a truth or a lie could be life or death. For example some kids who are gay lie to their parents and say that they are straight in fear of being beaten. In these situations i feel like it is safer for the individual to lie.

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  92. If we could somehow know that the world had no ultimate purpose, would pessimism and despair be an appropriate response?

    If the world had no ultimate purpose then it would be safe to assume that people would turn to pessimism and despair because everyone has a small need for a purpose that's why people work and have relationships, go to school, we all want to feel like we have a purpose in life and without that purpose I feel like people would turn to these options inevitably.

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  93. Does history mean anything, either in advance or in retrospect? Is history (as Henry Ford said) "bunk"? Can we learn lessons from history that will enable us to avoid repeating past errors? Do you agree with George Santayana that if we don't learn from history's mistakes we're doomed to repeat them?

    History has a way of repeating itself, we can definitely learn lessons from it and progress without making the same mistakes. I agree with George Santayana, if we do not learn and grow from the past we will make the same mistakes as we did in the past until we learn to stop making the same mistakes over and over again creating a cycle.

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  94. Do you think we all wear conceptual "spectacles" of some kind? If so, does that present a problem for the possibility of mutual understanding between ourselves and/or other kinds of knowers?

    As I stated in my David Lynch analysis, I believe that we all press our individual desires and values upon the world we inhabit. We judge just about everything that crosses our consciousness, and looking at the world with these spectacles of judgement is the consistent trap of ego that we find ourselves falling into time and time again. Each of us humans views ourselves as a individual vessel of "me" against the world of "not-me." It takes a special type of realization and conditioning to attempt to break free of that "me vs. them" concept and realize we're all one. It sounds like new age baloney, until you realize that we all trace our origins back to the same point. The more we attempt to embody this "oneness," the more we can approach the rest of humankind with compassion and understanding. We can't hold on to our illusion-propelling egos if we have any hope for mutual understanding.

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  95. Do you think we all wear conceptual "spectacles" of some kind? If so, does that present a problem for the possibility of mutual understanding between ourselves and/or other kinds of knowers?

    I think we do all wear conceptual "spectacles" since we are all born different and we all have different experiences.

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  96. Are there any moral rules you believe to be absolutely inviolable, never to be broken for any reason? Can you imagine a situation in which you think it would be right to lie, cheat, or steal?

    I don't think that there are any moral rules that can never be broken. I think it depends on the circumstance.

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  97. If we could somehow know that the world had no ultimate purpose, would pessimism and despair be an appropriate response?

    I don't think pessimism would be the right response. I think if we knew that the world had no ultimate purpose then the appropriate response would be to decide as a species what we wanted our purpose to be.

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  98. Is the world becoming more conscious, somehow? Does nature come to know itself through us?

    I think humans learning more about nature does not make nature conscious. I think the only way it effects nature is that it changes the way humans treat it.

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  99. Sec. 11

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    1. Kant said we can know the ____ but not the ____ world.

    2. What was Kant's great insight?

    3. What, according to Kant, is irrelevant to morality?

    4. Kant said you should never ___, because ___. Kant called the principle that supports this view the ____ _____.

    5. Who formulated the Greatest Happiness principle? What did he call his method? Where can you find him today?

    6. Who created a thought experiment that seems to refute Bentham's view of how pleasure relates to human motivation?

    7. What did Hegel mean when he spoke of the "owl of Minerva"? What did he think had been reached in his lifetime?

    8. What Kantian view did Hegel reject?

    9. What is Geist? When did Hegel say it achieved self-knowledge?

    10. What "blind driving force" did Schopenhauer allege to pervade absolutely everything (including us)?

    11. What did Schopenhauer say could help us escape the cycle of striving and desire?


    1.Phenomenal world; noumenal world
    2.His great insight was that we could, by the power of reason, discover features of our own minds that tint all our experience.
    3.Your sympathy
    4.Kant said you should never lie, because it’s always morally wrong; categorical imperatives
    5.Jeremy Bentham. Felicific calculus.
    6.Robert Nozick
    7.Wisdom will only come when we look at the past and Minerva was a Roman goddess of wisdom.
    8.Hegel came to reject Kant’s view that noumenal reality lies beyond the phenomenal world.
    9.The word for “spirit” in German, or “mind” in some translations.
    10.Will
    11.Art, specifically music.

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  100. Sec. 11

    FL 29-30
    12. For what American president was "the world of legend and myth a real world"?

    13. What made it possible, beginning in the '90s, for "cockamamie ideas and outright falsehoods" to spread fast and wide?

    14. What percentage of Americans say they never doubt the existence of God?

    15. What was Augustine's instruction, 1,600 years ago?


    12.Ronald Reagan
    13.the Web
    14.80
    15.“Don’t be stupid”

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  101. Sec. 11

    Are there any moral rules you believe to be absolutely inviolable, never to be broken for any reason? Can you imagine a situation in which you think it would be right to lie, cheat, or steal?

    I think any moral rule can be broken in an act of revenge. For example, let’s say someone stole something that was very valuable to your family. My first and immediate response would be to steal that item back, and I wouldn’t be classified as a thief because I’m recovering lost property.

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  102. Sec. 11

    Does history mean anything, either in advance or in retrospect? Is history (as Henry Ford said) "bunk"? Can we learn lessons from history that will enable us to avoid repeating past errors? Do you agree with George Santayana that if we don't learn from history's mistakes we're doomed to repeat them?

    History means everything. In my own words, the definition of history is foundation laying events. These are the events that give birth to new things, concepts, and ideas. Therefore, history is probably the most important thing to humanity, and it becomes more valuable and inspiring over time. I definitely agree with Santayana. Newer generations that educate themselves based on the history of earlier times are more likely to never repeat some of the same mistakes. History is like a “cheat sheet”. You like in the past to learn what not to do.

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