Up@dawn 2.0

Wednesday, February 19, 2014

Group 2 section 12

So Dr. oliver was gracious enough to allow us to spend our discussion time outside in response to the relatively beautiful weather. Thanks again! I believe that being out in the fresh air enabled our group to function more effectively. So we had the chance to discuss, in brief, about our particular characters and assisted each other in understanding our teams direction with this project. We have decided as a group that we should spend the weekend preparing a couple of paragraphs on our characters and their philosophy. So remember, as long as its philosophical, there really isn't a wrong way to come at this.
Enjoy your weekend!!


  1. jason dziadosz12:02 PM CST

    hey all. i'll volunteer to do Machiavelli and Hobbes in LH. another thing, I think I have a really good idea for a closing segment to our presentation. It will fit with everyone's research. I'd be happy to write it out and present it, if you're ok with me either not doing an individual presentation, or at least a brief one to lead into the closing.

    1. Morganne Stanfill5:00 PM CST

      That sounds good to me Jason! You'll just have to check with the remaining group members. Maybe shoot us an email to make sure everyone gets it. But I'll do the Hobbes section, so you don't have to do both of them in LH. If that's cool with you?

  2. Jason dziadosz11:36 PM CST

    Definitely cool with me!

  3. jason dziadosz10:58 AM CST

    On Machiavelli

    FQ: What qualities did Machiavelli admire in Cesare Borgia, the only leader of his time that really impressed him?

    FQ: Machiavelli's key idea when it came to what a prince needed to have is ______, the Italian word for manliness.

    FQ: In 1938, Britain's prime minister took this man's word that he would not attempt to expand his country's territory, failing to learn from Machiavelli's lessons.

    DQ: There are a ton of examples of world leaders using underhanded tactics to retain power. The CIA, FBI, Gestapo, the KGB. Is Machiavelli right in saying that in order to survive, a leader must be ruthless when necessary?


    Machiavelli's influence on Hitler

  4. I already read and had questions for Machiavelli but my internet was down due to the storm, so I'm going to post them anyways, sorry.

    Fq: Niccolò Machiavelli's book The Prince, published in 1532, was described as evil and a _________?
    Handbook for gangsters
    Fq: what family, who previously ruled Florence, threw Machiavelli into prison claiming he was plotting to overthrow them?
    Medici family
    Fq: how did Machiavelli believe you could improve your odds of success?
    By acting bravely and swiftly
    Dq: do you believe as a leader its better to be feared than loved?
    Fq: what animals did Machiavelli say to learn from and why?
    The fox because they are cunning and can spot traps and the lion because they are immensely strong and terrifying.


  5. Morganne Stanfill9:51 PM CST

    FQ: Which philosopher was a health fanatic, and lived long past the life expectancy to the age of 91? Thomas Hobbes (LH 57)

    FQ2: Which philosopher felt that all people were selfish, and that it is only laws and fear of punishment that keeps us in check? Thomas Hobbes (LH 58)

    DQ: Do you believe that if the civilization crashed and all rules were demolished that we all would kill or steal to survive if that was what was necessary?


  6. Morganne Stanfill10:11 PM CST

    I went ahead and found the questions from our group to be added to the study guide. But I cannot post it to the main wall, so whoever is able to please do so!

    1. Which philosopher felt that God was the "uncaused cause of everything that is"? Aquinas (LH 50)

    2. Who argued that taxation without consent is compared to forced labor?

    3. What twentieth century philosopher was credited for "singlehandedly reviving political philosophy"?
    John Rawls (AP 105)

    4. Which philosopher was put to death 2,400 years ago in Athens for asking too many questions? –Socrates

    5. Which philosopher constantly proved to people that they did not know as much as they thought they knew? –Socrates

    6. Who wrote the book The Nicomachean Ethics and why was it named that? Aristotle and it was named after his son

    7. What was the name of Aristotle's school in Athens? Lyceum

    8. What was the school Epicurus ran in Athens, and what was different about this school? The Garden, and it included slaves and women.

    9. Which ancient Greek philosopher argued that fear of death was a waste of time and based on bad logic? -Epicurus (LH 23)

    10. Augustine believed moral evil is a result of? Adam and Eve's choices to disobey God.

  7. FQ- What was Machiavelli's punishment after being released from prison since he did not confess to anything? (banishment)
    FQ- What was Machiavelli's original purpose for writing The Prince? (He wanted to impress people in power and become political advisor so he could return to Florence).
    FQ- What play did Machiavelli write? (Mandragola)

    DQ- Even though you have not read The Prince, how accurate is Machiavelli's views on "Princes" and politics in the 21st century?

  8. I read Thomas Hobbes in Little History.

    DQ- Hobbes believed that all humans were selfish and the threat of punishment kept us in check, do you agree with this statement?

    FQ- Who lived to be 91, was a fitness fanatic, and made a special stick with an inkwell in the handle to kae his notes with on his walks? Hobbes

    FQ- Who wrote leviathan (1651) where the book talked about the steps needed to move from the nightmarish situation of the state of nature to a secure society in which life is bearable? Hobbes

    Link- here's a link that discusses his book more in depth: http://oregonstate.edu/instruct/phl302/texts/hobbes/leviathan-contents.html