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Wednesday, November 6, 2013

The A-Team (16-1)

In class today we discussed the impact of Darwins's On the Origin of Species on philosophy. In our discussion we brought up the scenario of the world ending and there actually being a God... considering he basically created atheism, how much would people and/or God hate Darwin?

We also talked about John Stuart Mill, who is my favorite thus far. Dr. Oliver talked about how JSM sought happiness by limiting his desires, and that had Buddhist feel to it. Our group seemed to disagree with Mill's theory that people will always prefer to do things on a higher intellectual level, some people just want to role in mud.

I am going skydiving tomorrow so if im not in class monday check the obituaries.

Damon McCook

9 comments:

  1. Anonymous3:12 PM CST

    Anthony Helton 16-3
    Good luck with the sky dive and I feel that I disagree with Mill's theory too because being raised in the south I know a thing or two about rolling in the mud. They are not called Rednecks for nothing.

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  2. Austin Duke4:44 PM CST

    (16-1) I like some of Mill's ideas, especially on personal freedom. But I don't really agree with his ideas on different levels of quality for happiness. There are many people who would get very little pleasure out of listening to a symphony and would much prefer to do something that Mill would consider lower, such as playing sports or even rolling in the mud.
    FQ: What is Kierkegaard's most famous book? (Either/Or)
    DQ: Why hasn't there been a communist state that resembles Marx's ideal society?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9Cpuv4tSyo

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  3. I strongly disagree with JSM on the point that one achieves greater pleasure from more intellectual activities. I believe that we learn to like things as we develop. People may just develop differently on a cognitive level and get pleasure from different activities as a result.

    FQ: Which 19th century philosopher thought that communism was ideal for society? (Karl Marx)
    DQ: What is the ideal form of an economy?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmRgMAZyYN0

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  4. Jordan Cornelius9:14 PM CST

    I agree with Johnathan. People aren't all raised the same and develop later than others. There are too many variables to say one can achieve pleasure from more intellectual activities without considering everything else first.
    FQ: What type of government did Karl Marx think was ideal for society? (communism)
    DQ: Are there any productive communist societies out there?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx

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  5. Hope you had fun sky diving! I liked Mill as a philosopher but I, as well, did not agree with his point on higher intellectual thoughts of fun. I would really like to read "Either/Or" by Kierkegaard because the way he set it up from two different points of view is really interesting to me.
    FQ: What philosopher refers to the story of Abraham throughout his book Either/Or? (Kierkegaard)
    DQ: Do you guys think that everyone can be treated equally in a capitalist system?
    Link:http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/TUmarx.htm

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  6. I'd have to agree with the general consensus here: there are definitely different kinds of people all with different ideas of fun, so you can't really say people all prefer the intellectual kind. I'm sure there are even plenty of intellectual people who like to have fun doing stupid things.

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  7. Andrew 16-110:41 AM CST

    FQ: who was seen as the founder and inspeiration of "postcolonial" theory during his time? (AP: pg224) Edward Said

    DQ:Do all humans chase higher intelligence or do some "give up" and just enjoy the basics of life?
    http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/darwinism/

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  8. Chelsea 16-112:35 PM CST

    I have learned a lot about Marx in my sociology class his semester. I think that it is interesting on how a lot of people feel when they hear his name or the word communism. I used to think it was all negative. But I have learned that there hasn't actually been a nation to have true communism, it's actually been more like socialism.

    FQ: True or false? Marx spent most of his life in poverty? (True)

    DQ: What type of government do you truly believe would be ideal for the whole world?

    Link: Marx quotes

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  9. I would have to disagree with Mill's with his concept of there being different levels and qualities of happiness. I don't believe that there are different levels of happiness, I believe that a person can either be happy or not.

    FQ: Who wrote Either/Or: Kierkegaard
    DQ: Based off of Mill's theories of happiness, could there be different levels or qualities of sadness? or other emotions

    http://www.academia.edu/1246624/No_Philosophy_for_Swine_John_Stuart_Mill_on_the_Quality_of_Pleasures

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