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Friday, September 12, 2014

Section 10, Group 3; 9/11 Discussion Recap

God and death were the topics today, and I guess it's all downhill from here.  I mean, what else can be so compelling to look at from a philosophical view?

Our group continued the discussion of God and what place God has in a society, debating about the merits and consequences of separating the two.  Then we got into preparing yourself for death, how you would handle things if you were forewarned about your own death, and what you want to do before you die. 

Apparently, my vision for how I would close the last chapter in my own life given the terminal illness scenario, and the reasons I have for wanting that, was quite unique.  Professor Oliver had me share it with the class.

Now, completely unrelated to all of that, I saw this picture on the internet and I think it's worth of some thought, so I'll take up some bandwidth and share it here.


  1. After death, what do you do for an encore? Fortunately from my perspective, the best is yet to come (lots of Wm James, for one thing). And I agree with Montaigne: the point of philosophizing about death is to remind ourselves that we're not dead yet, we still get to live. (Got another reminder of that last night when I screened Monty Python's "Holy Grail" with Younger Daughter. "Bring out y'er dead...")

    But seriously: I found Billy's plan interesting and oddly humane, in its intent to spare loved ones of grief and fuss. In my own case, I'll have to remember how it was when I lost my Dad a few years ago to leukemia. He got his diagnosis in April and was gone in September. In the intervening 4 months I made many trips to visit him, and had many meaningful conversations about life (his, mine, ours) that I'd have felt awful not to have had, if he'd just turned up suddenly gone one day. Plus, I entertain the cliche fantasy of a gentle passage surrounded by family. A "good death." So, no remote island and rowboat and pistol for me. But this would be a great (if not too morbid) report topic: what would YOU do with a death sentence?

  2. FQ:
    Immanuel Kant believed moral action was not done out of inclination, feelings, or possibility of some sort of gain, but out of __________ ?

    What makes an action morally right or wrong?


  3. FQ:
    1. What did the name "Stoic" come from?

    2. What was the basic idea of Stoicism?

    1. Is it really that easy to not be bothered by what we cannot change?

    2. Is it justifiably moral to cause more pleasure than pain?

    Relevant Link:
    Thought this video was a bit interesting.

  4. Anonymous12:23 PM CDT

    FQ: Who was the first major stoic we recognize today?

    DQ: How stoic are you in your life?

    And for my link...http://classics.mit.edu/Epictetus/epicench.html

    The Enchiridion (roughly translated as The Handbook) is one of the enduring works of Epictetus and is seen as his "How To Guide" for some of life's conundrums. It has some things you can see are still true to this day. #40- sexist as it may be- is worth debate as to its relevance in the modern world, IMO.