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Thursday, January 31, 2013

Cicero H1


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Today our group talked about Cicero. Cicero had many views that were similar to his fellow Philosophers Epictetus and Seneca. The biggest idea these Philosophers talked about was the emotions that humans experience.

            We discussed the fixation Cicero had with ageing. At some point, every person has to die; therefore, ageing is a natural part of life. Epictetus defined being Philosophical as, “Accepting what you can’t change.” This idea can be linked to how Cicero viewed ageing. He said that in order to get over ageing, we must make the most out of our time. Many things happen to a person as they begin ageing. Some of these include, a weaker body, it gets harder to work, and one knows that death is close. Even though this may seem pretty harsh, Cicero explains that it is a natural part of everyday life. He discussed the use of mental exercises to strengthen your attitude toward death. Death and ageing also have a very large impact upon our emotions.

            Kailey presented the question, “Can we choose our emotions, or do they act like the weather, always changing?” We decided that it was a mix of both. Our emotions change every day without us choosing to feel that way. We can sometimes also choose to be happy despite the sadness going on around us. We can choose how we feel by accepting our world and the things we can’t change. Something we can’t change is the ageing process and death. Both are inevitable so we must accept it and move on. Trevor told us that he believed it is impossible to feel no emotion. Even though some people hide their emotions on the outside, they will always feel some kind of emotion on the inside. We discussed serial killers. They do not feel a sense of remorse after killing; they simply have the wrong emotions linked toward killing someone. Emotions are a very important part of everyone’s life. Being in control of each emotion is important.

D.Q.: Is the thought of ageing a type of enslavement for our minds?

7 comments:

  1. It is true that we have a limited time to live. You personally never know when it will be your time to go. I also agree with Trevor. Someone will always have an emotion. Even if you are sitting in a dark room with no one around, someone will have the emotion that relates to loneliness and possibly sadness from being away from the world. Also, I agree that you do have control over your emotions because that is how some people hide that he or she is happy or sad throughout the day when you do not want someone to see their true emotions. However, in desperate situations, emotions can not be contained. I believe that emotions play a big part in our lives.

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  2. I think in some cases you cannot choose your emotions, but you can choose how you act on them. Your attitude about a situation is pretty important. In regards to ageing being enslavement for the mind, I think for some people it is. I know people who have been so upset and even cried on their fortieth birthday because they are “old.” But, it’s how you look at it. Another lovely year has passed. At least you are alive. Everyone dies: it’s a fact of life. In this case, being a stoic actually makes sense. Everyone ages. It is a good thing. I mean, would you rather be stuck as a thirteen year old middle schooler?

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    1. Kailey McDonald9:45 PM CST

      That's what I was thinking. I believe that the effect our attitude has on our life is huge. It's all about how you decide to look at things. I also like how you said aging is good.. I for one hope that I live to be an old grandma with gray hair and wrinkly skin! It's all about perspective!

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  3. Anonymous8:22 AM CST

    As the floater, I was able to observe the common thread of happiness throughout the 4 groups. One group talked about the importance of having friends to make life more enjoyable, but to beware of basing most of your happiness upon them, because a falling out or death could destroy your life or identity. Choosing moderation was the maxim of that group. The next group discussed emotion changes and how much influence we truly have on our own emotions. Are our emotions like the weather, ever changing and impossible to control, or easily changed on a whim at our own choosing? The next one talked of a solitary life vs. a life full of only friends. Coming back to the first group's decision, an average between the means was seen as best. The last group talked about the perception of emotions, and how we can never truly know if emotions are within our will to control or if we are slaves to the whim of our consciousness changing emotions.

    FQ: Which philosopher believed that friends are necessary to lead a happy life?
    A: Cicero

    DQ: Is happiness conditional upon events in one's life, or can happiness be controlled through self-control and mere thinking?

    http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/were-slaves-to-new-products-but-no-closer-to-happiness-20120913-25v0i.html

    Mason Riley

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  4. Larissa I like how you said we actually all want to age.I think that is very true. I know personally I would not want to be stuck in those awkward teenage years of middle school again!

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  5. Kailey McDonald10:02 PM CST

    DQ: How do a sovereign God and free will fit together?
    FQ: What philosopher spent his last days writing a philosophy book in prison? Answer: Boethius

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  6. I believe everyone thinks about his or her own death. While it is usually impossible to predict one’s own death, it can still be a factor in one’s decisions. I also agree that sometimes it is very difficult to impossible to control our emotions. Somedays we will wake up and know that our day isn’t going to go well. However, I believe humans always have emotions There is a difference between not having emotion and not showing emotion. Some people definitely lose the ability/willpower to show emotion, but yet they still possess them.

    DQ: Does emotion change with nature, or do we control them?

    Link: http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2008/11/09/weather-can-change-your-mood/

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