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Thursday, January 31, 2013

Cicero 14-2

Our group talked about Cicero's beliefs and how he knew that death was inevitable, so instead of being depressed by this fact we should live life and not hold back. A question came up, Should we live life to the fullest or be cautious? Our group said that you should live life to the fullest but not live recklessly. We also discussed the term "y.o.l.o" is dumb and that we should not do stupid things. Cicero also talked about as you get older, what you find pleasurable is different than what you thought was pleasurable when you are younger; so there is nothing to fear about getting older.What you find pleasurable will change and you most likely will be happy doing it until the end of days. Whether we like it or not we are going to get older, so we might as well acknowledge the fact and then deal with it the best that you can; with doing what makes you happy at whatever stage of life that you are in.
Q: What if you are affected by a memory disease and you don't remember your younger years. You cannot recollect your earlier life so how can we revel in our memory?
We discussed that stoicism probably isn't the best option for people that suffer Alzheimer's because they cannot find joy in memories that they cannot recollect. It might help if they have people that were present in the persons earlier years than they might be able to help  them recollect their memories. It would be hard for the people who took care of them as the disease progressed but we discussed that there would be moments that the person would remember and recollect their family members and I would be worth it just to witness that.
We also ventured off and talked about t.v. shows such as Catfish and Cops....which relates to what makes us happy...but also had a discussion about stoicism and how it would be nice to be stoic in certain situations but that it is rather emotionless and isn't the best option, at least for our group members.
We also talked about how it is kind of strange that some people who are elderly try to become more youthful. It seems like they can't accept aging. The movie In Time was brought up, a movie where people stopped aging in their twenties but continue living, and we discussed if it would be cool if that was how it was today. Some people thought that this wouldn't be the best option because age is seen as wisdom and it is something that should be present, because it shows that a person has lived, they have experiences and are wiser. It is something that should be accepted and even looked up to. People should be able to just live and accept aging instead of worrying about esthetic things.






11 comments:

  1. To me Cicero meant for people to live you life to the fullest when you are young by doing the things that satisfy you. And this makes it easier to be happy when you are old even though we might no be able to do the things that we once did. After all, death is inevitable.

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  2. The human brain is programmed for memory recall and constantly replays memories subconsciously all day. Most of the time those memories tend to have a brighter/happier perception than when they originally occurred. It makes me wonder if Alzheimer's affects the brain were the memory recall ability is still there but skew's the perception of reality. I'm not sure if this makes sense to you all but I was pondering on this after class Thursday.

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  3. I agree with Timothy that the way people perceive the term "YOLO" is meant to be how Cicero believes it to mean. Teenagers and rappers take it out of context and make it sound degrading and reckless, but we do only live once, why not make it meaningful and beautiful in what we do and how we act? We only live once, so make it something we will always look back on with fondness and warm feelings.

    I enjoyed reading your summary. I always go here to take notes after class is over and your summary helped a lot!

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  4. Cicero wanted us live life without having any regrets. Therefore, I feel as if he felt we should go after and live our goals that we want out of life before we die. Many people are alive, but are they really living? Cicero doesn't want us to hold back anything, meaning don't go out and do anything stupid, but go out and explore the wonderful and true meanings of life.

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    1. I agree. He wanted people to feel happiness from the smaller things in life.

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  5. i found these interesting quotes from Cicero

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRx2w_zPrsI

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  6. Cicero talks about ageing is part of life. My question is if our lives were like the movie "In Time"; how would we live our lives then? If we didn't fear death and didn't age, then what would society be like? I'm also wonder what Cicero would say about it.

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  7. I think that society wouldn't function as well as it does if our life was like the movie "In time", because it would be dangerous for people not to value human life, aging, and death. I think that there should be an awareness and respect that death is inevitable and something to deter us from doing dangerous things.

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  8. Tony Spelta11:28 AM CST

    cicero's idea I think just meant to live in the moment and do what makes you happy throughout your life. Living this was is a great way to live a happy and fulfilled lives.

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