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Thursday, January 24, 2013

Socrates and the Art of the Question

(Section 14, Group 1)

            If we can associate Plato with the Form of the earth and Aristotle with the earth itself, with what can we associate Socrates? Perhaps with nothing else but the question. Socrates' statement, "The unexamined life is not worth living," seems to capture the essence of his philosophy. Not unlike people today, most Athenians did not want to question their lives and transcend into the unknown—or, for that matter, be pestered by Socrates. Unlike many of his contemporaries, Socrates recognized darkness as much as he recognized light, and he questioned how, if at all, the two—what we know and what we don't know—interact. If the world was indeed a world of opposites, then there be no need for us to question it. The fact that it's not only proves the essentiality of the question, the art of which he nearly perfected throughout his life.

            We compared Socrates to the Sophists—two contrasting teachers of their time. Although the Sophists were highly regarded and their teachings were reserved for the elite, they did not seek the truth as Socrates had. The Sophists did not intimidate society, nor were they accused of "corrupting" the youth. Their lessons were standardized, safe, and well within the boundaries of society's comfort zone. Socrates' teachings, unrestricted by a fear of the unknown, managed to transcend not only the boundaries of knowledge but also the boundaries of time. The Sophists were as partial to the known as Socrates was to the unknown. We agreed that although Socrates may have been annoying and persistent, he never forced his point of view upon others. He remained open-minded and even questioned the validity of his own beliefs. Whether or not he was the father of western philosophy remains debatable, but the fact that he was one of the first—and most influential—philosopher to breach the topic of humanity and existence (rather than essence or elements) does not.

            Given the cultural context of Socrates' time, had Socrates believed in the Greek gods? We can never know for sure, although Socrates repeatedly denied accusations of his disbelief. Undoubtedly, he had questioned both the existence and the significance of the gods. We'll leave it up to you to decide what this assessment led to. Our group concluded that it was likely he had been an atheist‚ or something close to its equivalent. Whether his questions caused disbelief in the known—or belief in the unknown—depends on how you perceive the world: through what is present or what is absent, or, Socratically, simply through what is.

            We wondered if Socrates, by Aristotle's standards, had been happy—if he had achieved eudaimonia. If eudaimonia remains in effect long after one's death, then we can guess that he was. We need only say his name to witness the legacy it evokes. He chose death over the cessation of asking questions—which he certainly did a lot of. It's almost as if the death of Socrates the person ultimately gave rise to Socrates the concept, which is how most of us remember him today—the embodiment of the question, for whom an unexamined life was, indeed, worse than death. If Socrates evaded death, would it have changed how we think of him today? (Discussion question)


DISCLAIMER: Comic Sans used ironically.

            Our group mused at the possibility of Socrates merely being a character created in Plato's writing. Although it's unlikely, it is sort of amusing to imagine. Talk about the longest running joke in history. But even if Socrates had not been a real person, it probably wouldn't change much. After all, what we remember often becomes what happens. Today, Socrates still lives on, not only in the ancient writings of Plato, but also in the minds of many, perpetuated by the blossoming of questions, through which a memory of him will always remain.

8 comments:

  1. Katy Ramsey1:01 PM CST

    To me, Socrates represents the phrase "Curiosity Killed the Cat".
    His life was dedicated to asking questions and questioning answers, but never answering questions. Although ahead of his time, he never claimed to have an abundant amount of knowledge, and never professed he had 'discovered' a new way of thinking. His humble attitude, to me, creates a man of character.
    In relation to Aristotle, a good factual question might be 'What does eudaimonia mean?' Simple question, but important in understanding much of Aristotle's philosophy.

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    1. Well, it's not quite correct to say he never answered. He considered many answers. But, point taken.

      In general, I think what we need are not universal absolute answers but provisional and actionable answers, subject to revision as experience warrants.

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  2. THAT PICTURE IS THE GREATEST. Just, yes. Everything about it is amazing.

    And Socrates to me feels like one of those figures (or ideas, if he certainly never existed) that seems to have endured over time. To say he wasn't a martyr for the philosophical revolution would be an understatement, and I personally feel like Socrates would be pleased at the movement he created, but definitely displeased at how little society cares. But I think that's a problem that will be with humanity forever...

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  3. Brian Hester4:29 PM CST

    I missed most of our groups discussion because I was the floater again. Though some of the other groups had some interesting topics being talked about, such as " what is true happiness?" And "what causes the yuck factor?" I think I took the most from the yuck factor group, I believe it is mostly a product of socialization, because in general the things that we think are yuck are things that society as a whole agrees on.

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    1. "Floater again"-? Everybody's supposed to take turns.

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  4. Whether or not he actually existed, I feel like Socrates was probably one of those people that I would just not like to be around(I'm more of an Aristotle person I think). I'm used to an environment in which certain topics come with the stigma that you just don't discuss them at random with a stranger and from what we read, Socrates seems to be all about that.However uncomfortable it may be for me, though is not really relevant because philosophy seems to be all about questioning.Though thinking about some topics and confrontation in general are slightly uncomfortable to me, I feel like the group discussion format of our class helps a lot with that and makes me feel more talkative.

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  5. While Socrates did seem to boombard strangers with random questions to sort of see what the people in general believed to be true. Then would pick apart the definition of the answer to leave the person to redefine themselves. Ultimately to make the public really wonder what is. The life he lived was one of questions and confrontations with other points of view. Would I die for my beliefs? Maybe not my beliefs, but for my children without a doubt.

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  6. Ian Mallari11:59 AM CST

    While all of these comments are true, I find myself pondering on how Socrates would be regarded in today's society. Would we still see him as a bright mind who died for his beliefs? Or as an annoying man who thought too much? (I would hate to be his child and ask for help on homework...lecture of questions!)
    A good test question might be "Was Socrates open minded?"

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