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Saturday, September 15, 2018

More thoughts on Consciousness and where it comes from... from a novice perspective


Last night I watched an interesting Ri lecture on Quantum Fields. The topic was Quantum Fields: The Real Building Blocks of the Universe given by Dr. David Tong, a theoretical physicist from the University of Cambridge. If you can a spare hour and are even remotely interested in learning how the universe works, give it a watch. In an hours time, he single handedly explains all of middle school and high school science in laymen terms to the point of having a basic understanding as to how we see the universe today. Had my middle school and high school teachers explained atoms, protons, electron, photons, etc. as he does, I would have had a much better understanding and more appreciation for all of this at an earlier age.
During his lecture, he dives into quantum fields and our current exploration into how this may be the way the universe is ‘built’. Somewhat scrapping the periodic table of elements as ‘the way we see the building blocks of the universe’, Tong elaborates on The Standard Model and how this is a more accurate way to view reality, at least we think so. Over the past few centuries, great minds such as Michael Faraday (who’s discoveries contributed to our understanding and usage of electromagnetism) and Albert Einstein (who’s ideas changed our understanding of gravity and spacetime) have pushed the limits on our understanding of how our reality is constructed. The Stand Model seems to be the most accurate way of doing so thus far, as far as we can tell.
As I have expressed before in my writings, I am but a novice knowledge seeker on a journey to explore consciousness. This journey has led me down many paths, none of which I expected and none of which have left me feeling any more secure in finding an answer. Tong’s lecture led me down yet another path of questions and I intend to follow it further. Here are a few thoughts I had.
Tong shows us that according to Quantum Field Theory (QFT), the universe is made up of different fields that are spread all throughout the universe, for example the electromagnetic field. “Faraday taught us, and Maxwell later, that waves of the electromagnetic field are what we call light. But when you apply quantum mechanics to this, you find that these light waves aren’t as smooth and continuous as they appear. So if you look closely at light waves, you’ll find they are made of particles, the photon. The magic of this idea is that that same principle applies to every single particle in the universe. So, there is spread everywhere throughout this room something that we call the electron field. It’s like a fluid that fills this room and in fact fills the entire universe. And the ripples of this fluid, that waves of this fluid, get tied into little bundles of energy by the rules of quantum mechanics, and those bundles of energy are what we call the electron. All the electrons in your body are not fundamental, all the electrons in your body are waves of the same underlying field. We are all connected to each other.” Tong goes to to explain this is the same for other fields, meaning there are two quark fields which give rise to the up quark and the down quark as we call them and so on. So this made me think, could there be a field that is producing some tied up bundle of energy that when it interacts with the neurons in our brain, it gives rise to consciousness? This could be a novice incorrect question to ask and perhaps this had already been shown to be impossible. I am currently diving into the inter webs in search for answers. I am buried under 13+ books right now as I continue to try and write my thesis paper, so perhaps the answer lies in one I have not gotten to yet. Let the journey continue.


https://youtu.be/zNVQfWC_evg

20 comments:

  1. I still owe you some comments from your last post...

    Fascinating stuff. I've already confessed my aversion to much talk of quanta, etc., mostly because I have a hard time connecting the abstractions of quantum- & astro-physics and their talk of electron fields, magnetic fields, etc. with my own fields of ordinary experience. I find it easier to think of my consciousness as generated by those, and of IT as representing a generating a turnstile THEY must pass in order to elucidate my understanding of the world and my cognition thereof. Maybe that's an unwarranted macro-empirical bias I should reconsider... But I hope you'll continue to explore the abstruse quantum universe with one eye still watching the turnstile. And don't stop asking "novice" questions, we're all still novices with respect to the largest meanings of life!

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    1. I've embedded the video so I'll not forget to give it a look.

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  2. Hello, I'm in H01 but I find your study very interesting and as I read this I had a thought that I would love your input on.
    My thought hinges off a question. If the quantum fields make electrons that can fire neurons in our brain to think and so on, is the quantum field across everything proportional? or is it denser or creating more electrons in some places over others? If its not even does this not mean that we could actually think better in places with a higher electron count? Your thoughts?

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    1. Hey William!
      This is a fascinating question. And unfortunately I do not have an answer but am absolutely going to look into it. I do not recall reading any specific information on how evenly spread these fields are or if there are denser areas to be found thus creating more electrons in the electron field or quarks in the quark field, etc. only that they occupy the entire universe and are 'fluid' in nature. But if thought of as a fluid like structure then yes it would make sense that there may be areas with denser bundles of particles, like a bundle of bubbles in the ocean. You have absolutely posed an intriguing question and I will do my best to find an answer!

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  3. If everything is composed of atoms, does it follow that there is no life after death? (100)

    It all depends on whether or not you consider the 'soul' of a person to be composed of atoms or not. If you do, then the next step would be to understand its composition to then see if it would be a feasible possibility for it to leave the body at one's death. H2

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  4. Does atomism "liberate [us] from superstition, fear of death, and the tyranny of priests"?

    In a sense, yes. When you see the yourself as one with the universe it gives you a sense of constant evolution. This means that one sees himself as he sees a tree, part of a cycle of life and death. This view could be received in a myriad of ways. H2

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  5. If thought consists in the motion of mind-atoms, can we freely think our own thoughts? Or are we passive spectators of "our" minds?

    I tend to think of it in the was that our consciousness is the little man that roams the 'earth' that is our mind. Let him roam where he will. H2

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  6. What difference does it make, if particles are inseparable from forces and fields and bundles of energy and thus cannot be proved to be "unsplittable" (as the ancient atomists said)?

    This would mean that motion is indeed real. If atoms are inseparable, then the compounds that they create would have a barrier, so to speak, and thus have the mass to push through less dense bodies of atoms. H2

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  7. Is it "reasonable to suppose that every sort of world crop[s] up somewhere"? (109)

    Think of how vast the cosmos is. Is it reasonable not suppose?

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  8. Do you think blind people have a better since on the universe and their place in it, being that they have a 'greater sense' of feeling? H2

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  9. When you here philosophies such as the ones we are discussing, like the theory of atomism, does it give you a sense of contentment or revulsion? H2

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  10. Would you rather be deaf or blind? This is a question I'm sure all of us have experienced in life. What I am asking you to think about is do you prefer the experience of sound ways more than light waves or vis versa. H2

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  11. Does this atomism theory make eating meat less appetizing for some? H2

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  12. When having the atomism theory in mind, does it make you think of the relationship between man and beast in a new light? H2

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  13. If our vision was that of microscopes, how would that make life different? H2

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  14. Do you believe if everyone were required to take a philosophy class, we'd have a more cultured society? H2

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  15. Are you a fan of reading? Think about it. Why or why not? H2

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  16. Does this atomism theory make you think of clothes and brands differently? Would it make you spend money in a different way? H2

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  17. Does this atomism theory make you think of race in a different light? Do you think people of the same denomination have more in common than language and skin color? H2

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  18. With this atomism view in mind, how does it make you feel about the friends you have? do you think your gravitation towards each other have anything to do with your atom composition? H2

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