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Thursday, February 20, 2020

Quizzes Feb 25, 27

Skepticism, LH 3; FL 17-18; midterm reports continue. Scroll down to *Th27

LISTEN (Pyrrho)... LISTEN (FL 17-18)

1. What was the main teaching of skepticism? ("Scepticism" in Br. spelling)

2. How did Pyrrho feel about the senses? 


3. Where did Pyrrho visit as a young man and probably encounter influences for his philosophy?  

4. How did Pyrrho say you could become free from all worry? Does Warburton think this would work for most of us?

5. How does modern skepticism differ from its ancient predecessor?


6. What is the opposite of skepticism?

7.  What is a "favorite fiction" of the first "tramp" Dickens describes?

8. What does the "tramp" with the "perplexed demeanor" do with the money (half-a-crown) given to him? 


9. What theme park opened in Brooklyn at the turn of the 20th century?

10. Who was Robert Love Taylor and what did he lecture about?

11. What 1915 movie contributed to the growth of the KKK? 

12. What do southerners turn away from, according to The Mind of the South?

13. What was foolish, according to the modernist New Theology of the early 20th century?

14. How did Christian modernists reconcile scripture with science?

15. What happened in Dayton TN in the summer of 1925, and what did Clarence Darrow say about "what Tennessee had done"?

16. What was the "cultural impact" for each side of the Scopes trial?



Discussion Questions:
  • Do you agree that withholding commitment minimizes disappointment?
  • Is it really possible to believe nothing? Or therapeutic to try?
  • Can you think of an example when you were misled by your senses in a situation that had serious consequences?
  • If the senses sometimes mislead, is the most rational response to mistrust them entirely?
  • What kinds of things do you tend to worry about? What strategies might lessen your worry?
  • What are you skeptical about?
  • How much skepticism is appropriate? How much is too much?
  • Were you taught in school about the history of racism in post-Emancipation America, and specifically about the KKK?
  • How can science and religion be reconciled? Or can they?
  • Add your DQs
Why be skeptical?
“Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.” Voltaire

“I mean, you could claim that anything's real if the only basis for believing in it is that nobody's proved it doesn't exist!” 
― J.K. Rowling

“Blind belief in authority is the greatest enemy of truth.” 
― Albert Einstein


“Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.” 
― Carl Sagan


“I know of no society in human history that ever suffered because its people became too desirous of evidence in support of their core beliefs.” 
― Sam Harris


“In our reasonings concerning matter of fact, there are all imaginable degrees of assurance, from the highest certainty to the lowest species of moral evidence. A wise man, therefore, proportions his belief to the evidence.” 
― David Hume


“I have always felt that doubt was the beginning of wisdom, and the fear of God was the end of wisdom.” 
― Clarence Darrow


"The truly civilized man is always skeptical and tolerant, in this field as in all others. His culture is based on "I am not too sure.” 
― H.L. Mencken

Summer '18-MALA 6040, Evolution in America - we had a field trip to Dayton TN, for the annual Scopes Trial re-enactment (as discussed in FL 18)...

Ancient Skepticism, from Philosophy Without Any Gaps...

Pyrrho & Ancient Skepticism discussed in Bertrand Russell's History of Western Philosophy...




  


60 Minutes (@60Minutes)
After delaying the Kavanagh vote, Senators Jeff Flake and Chris Coons talked to 60 Minutes about give-and-take in politics: "Our nation can't survive if it doesn't exist." cbsn.ws/2OqUVSs


Dream of Reason on Pyrrho-"Two centuries after Pyrrho's death, one of his defenders tossed aside these tales and claimed that 'although he practised philosophy on the principles of suspension of judgement, he did not act carelessly in  the details of everyday life.' This must be right. He may have been magnificently imperturbable... But he was surely not an idiot. He apparently lived to be nearly ninety..." 337

"What use is knowledge if, for its sake, we lose the calm and repose which we should enjoy without it and if it makes our condition worse than that of Pyrrho's pig?" Montaigne on Pyrrho's Pig, in Consolations of Philosophy... 120








skepticism
Belief that some or all human knowledge is impossible. Since even our best methods for learning about the world sometimes fall short of perfect certainty, skeptics argue, it is better to suspend belief than to rely on the dubitable products of reason. Classical skeptics include Pyrrhoand Sextus Empiricus. In the modern era, MontaigneBayle, and Hume all advocated some form of skeptical philosophy. Fallibilism is a more moderate response to the lack of certainty.

Pyrrho of Elis (365-270 BCE)
Greek philosopher who originated classical skepticism. Since there are plausible arguments for both sides of any issue, Pyrrho argued, the only rational practice is to suspend all judgment, abandon worries of every kind {Gk. αταραξια [ataraxia]}, and live comfortably in an appreciation of the appearances. His teachings were preserved and amplified by his pupil Timon of Philius.
Recommended Reading: Edwyn Bevan, Stoics and Skeptics (Ares, 1980) and Richard Bett, Pyrrho, His Antecedents, and His Legacy (Oxford, 2000).
Also see SEPIEPEB, and ELC.

Sextus Empiricus (c. 200)
Sextus Empiricus
Ancient skeptic who defended the practical viability of Pyrrhonism as the only way of life that results in genuine αταραξια [ataraxia] in Pyrrhonian Hypotyposeis (Outlines of Pyrrhonism). The translation into Latin of Sextus's comprehensive criticisms of ancient schools of thought in Adversos Mathematicos (Against the Dogmatists) provided an important resource for the development of modern skepticism during the sixteenth century.
Recommended Reading: The Original Sceptics: A Controversy, ed. by Myles Burnyeat and Michael Frede (Hackett, 1997); Tad Brennan, Ethics and Epistemology in Sextus Empircus(Garland, 1999); and Luciano Floridi, Sextus Empiricus: The Transmission and Recovery of Pyrrhonism (Oxford, 2001).
Also see SEPEB, and ELC.

Ancient Skepticism (SEP)

The Greek word skepsis means investigation. By calling themselves skeptics, the ancient skeptics thus describe themselves as investigators. They also call themselves ‘those who suspend’ (ephektikoi), thereby signaling that their investigations lead them to suspension of judgment. They do not put forward theories, and they do not deny that knowledge can be found. At its core, ancient skepticism is a way of life devoted to inquiry. Also, it is as much concerned with belief as with knowledge. As long as knowledge has not been attained, the skeptics aim not to affirm anything. This gives rise to their most controversial ambition: a life without belief.
Ancient skepticism is, for the most part, a phenomenon of Post-Classical, Hellenistic philosophy. The Academic and Pyrrhonian skeptical movements begin roughly in the third century BCE, and end with Sextus Empiricus in the second century CE.... (continues)


Bertrand Russell: Popular Cynicism did not teach abstinence from the good things of this world, but only a certain indifference to them. In the case of a borrower, this might take the form of minimizing the obligation to the lender. One can see how the word "cynic" acquired its every-day meaning. What was best in the Cynic doctrine passed over into Stoicism, which was an altogether more complete and rounded philosophy. Scepticism, as a doctrine of the schools, was first proclaimed by Pyrrho, who was in Alexander's army, and campaigned with it as far as India. It seems that this gave him a sufficient taste of travel, and. that he spent the rest of his life in his native city, Elis, where he died in 275 B.C. There was not much that was new in his doctrine, beyond a certain systematizing and formalizing of older doubts. Scepticism with regard to the senses had troubled Greek philosophers from a very early stage; the only exceptions were those who, like Parmenides and Plato, denied the cognitive value of perception, and made their denial into an opportunity for an intellectual dogmatism. The Sophists, notably Protagoras and Gorgias, had been led by the ambiguities and. apparent contradictions of sense-perception to a subjectivism not unlike Hume's. Pyrrho seems (for he very wisely wrote no books) to have added moral and logical scepticism to scepticism as to the senses. He is said to have maintained that there could never be any rational ground for preferring one course of action to another. In practice, this meant that one conformed to the customs of whatever country one inhabited. A modern disciple would go to church on Sundays and. perform the correct genuflexions, but without any of the religious beliefs that are supposed to inspire these actions. Ancient Sceptics went through the whole pagan ritual, and were even sometimes priests; their Scepticism assured them that this behaviour could not be proved wrong, and their common sense (which survived their philosophy) assured them that it was convenient. Scepticism naturally made an appeal to many unphilosophic minds. People observed the diversity of schools and the acerbity of their disputes, and decided that all alike were pretending to knowledge which ____________________ * The Hellenistic Age ( Cambridge, 1923), p. 86. -233- was in fact unattainable. Scepticism was a lazy man's consolation, since it showed the ignorant to be as wise as the reputed men of learning. To men who, by temperament, required a gospel, it might seem unsatisfying, but like every doctrine of the Hellenistic period it recommended itself as an antidote to worry. Why trouble about the future? It is wholly uncertain. You may as well enjoy the present; "What's to come is still unsure." For these reasons, Scepticism enjoyed a considerable popular success. It should be observed that Scepticism as a philosophy is not merely doubt, but what may be called dogmatic doubt. The man of science says "I think it is so-and-so, but I am not sure." The man of intellectual curiosity says "I don't know how it is, but I hope to find out." The philosophical Sceptic says "nobody knows, and nobody ever can know." It is this element of dogmatism that makes the system vulnerable. Sceptics, of course, deny that they assert the impossibility of knowledge dogmatically, but their denials are not very convincing. Pyrrho's disciple Timon, however, advanced some intellectual arguments which, from the standpoint of Greek logic, were very hard to answer. The only logic admitted by the Greeks was deductive, and all deduction had to start, like Euclid, from general principles regarded as self-evident. Timon denied the possibility of finding such principles. Everything, therefore, will have to be proved by means of something else, and all argument will be either circular or an endless chain hanging from nothing. In either case nothing can be proved. This argument, as we can see, cut at the root of the Aristotelian philosophy which dominated the Middle Ages. Some forms of Scepticism which, in our own day, are advocated by men who are by no means wholly sceptical, had not occurred to the Sceptics of antiquity. They did not doubt phenomena, or question propositions which, in their opinion, only expressed what we know directly concerning phenomena. Most of Timon's work is lost, but two surviving fragments will illustrate this point. One says "The phenomenon is always valid." The other says: "That honey is sweet I refuse to assert; that it appears sweet, I fully grant." * A modern Sceptic would point out that the phenomenon merely occurs, and is not either valid or invalid; what is valid or invalid must be a state- ____________________ * Quoted by Edwyn Bevan, Stoics and Sceptics, p. 126. -234- ment, and no statement can be so closely linked to the phenomenon as to be incapable of falsehood. For the same reason, he would say that the statement "honey appears sweet" is only highly probable, not absolutely certain. In some respects, the doctrine of Timon was very similar... History of Western Philosophy==
An old post:
Today in CoPhi it's skeptics. Or sceptics, if you prefer the British spelling. Or you can follow their lead and refuse to commit. "Don't commit, and you won't be disappointed."

I haven't generally found that to be a reliable guidepost in life, instead taking my cue from the lesson James's "first act of free will" (previously noted) seems to me to teach: don't just sit there, stand and select a destination. And get going. As my old pal the Carolina prof says, do something-even if it's wrong. And as James also said, "our errors surely are not such awfully solemn things." Lighten up.  Pick a path. Move. (My friend's colleague David Henderson gave a first-rate presentation at the conference, btw, on not reducing wilderness and the national park system to an American thing but seeing wilderness as a call to cosmopolitanism.)

But that's my therapy, it may not be yours. Some of us really do prefer sitting on a fence, avoiding firm opinions, keeping all accounts open. And there's no doubt, a healthy dose of skepticism is good for you. But how much is too much? 

My answer is implied by the bumper sticker message on my bulletin board: "even fatalists look both ways before crossing the street." If you stop looking, you're either too skeptical or not skeptical enough. Probably a lunatic, too. Or the ruler of the universe. "I say what it occurs to me to say when I think I hear people say things. More I cannot say." [see below*]


Point is, we need beliefs to motivate action lest we sit and starve like Buridan's ass, or cross paths with a cart and get flattened. Prudence demands commitment. Commitment is no guarantee against error and disappointment, but indifference and non-commitment typically leave us stuck in the middle of the road or drop us off the cliff.

That wasn't Pyrrho's perspective, jay- and cliff-walker though he was. Fortunately for him, he seems always to have had friends steering him from the edge. His prescription - but is a skeptic allowed to prescribe? - was to free yourself from desires, don't care how things will turn out, persuade yourself that nothing ultimately matters, and you'll eventually shuck all worry. Or not. If we all were Pyrrho "there wouldn't be anyone left to protect the Pyrrhonic Sceptics from themselves." Prudence wins again.

Prudence and moderation. "The point of moderate philosophical scepticism is to get closer to the truth," or further at least from falsehood and bullshit. Easier said than done, in these alt-fact days of doublespeak. "All the great philosophers have been [moderate] sceptics," have sought truth and spurned lies, have deployed their baloney detectors and upheld the bar of objective evidence. Sincerity alone won't cut it.
The contemporary proliferation of bullshit also has deeper sources, in various forms of skepticism which deny that we can have any reliable access to an objective reality and which therefore reject the possibility of knowing how things truly are. These anti-realist doctrines undermine confidence in the value of disinterested efforts to determine what is true and what is false, and even in the intelligibility of the notion of objective inquiry... Facts about ourselves are not peculiarly solid and resistant to skeptical dissolution. Our natures are, indeed, elusively insubstantial-notoriously less stable and less inherent than the natures of other things. And insofar as this is the case, sincerity itself is bullshit.
So, be a skeptic. But to paraphrase David Hume and Jon Batiste, stay human. ("Be a philosopher, but amidst your philosophy be still a man.")

Read Skeptic magazine, which in a recent issue doubts the possibility of eternal youth and features the parodic perspective of Mr. Deity. Skeptic's editor Michael Shermer says “Smart people believe weird things because they are skilled at defending beliefs they arrived at for non-smart reasons.” And, “I’m a skeptic not because I do not want to believe, but because I want to know.”

Pyrrho must not have been that crazy, to have lived to nearly ninety. "He did not act carelessly in the details of everyday life," said a defender, he just suspended judgment as to their ultimate import in the larger truths of things. Or maybe he just wanted to protect his batting average, so to speak. If you never swing, you'll never miss. But you'll still strike out if you take too many.

David Hume, again. He was a skeptic but he didn't let that interfere with living. He ventured opinions but couched them in philosophic humility. He knew we couldn't all be Pyrrho, for "all action would immediately cease" and "the necessities of nature" would "put an end to [our] miserable existence." Miserable? He must have been having a bad day. Generally he was of great cheer and humane disposition.

So let's not throw in the sponge on humanity just yet. What a strange expression, "throwing in the sponge"-it comes from the Roman Skeptic Sextus Empiricus, who told a story about a painter who stopped trying so hard to paint the perfect representation of a horse's mouth and discovered that sometimes it's best to just let fly. Fling your sponge, let it land where it may. Okay, if you're just painting. If you're living a life, though, maybe just a bit less skepticism is prudent.

Is it possible to go through life questioning and doubting everything, committing always to nothing, and holding no firm opinions? Is it desirable or useful to try doing so? And do you know anyone who doesn't look both ways before crossing the street?

*Pyrrho reminds me of the Ruler of the Universe

...who is really more Pyrrhonist Skeptic than solipsist, I think.


MAN:   Pussy pussy pussy . . . coochicoochicoochi . . . pussy want his fish? Nice piece of fish . . . pussy want it? Pussy not eat his fish, pussy get thin and waste away, I think. I imagine this is what will happen, but how can I tell? I think it's better if I don't get involved. I think fish is nice, but then I think that rain is wet so who am I to judge? Ah, you're eating it.

I like it when I see you eat the fish, because in my mind you will waste away if you don't.

Fish come from far away, or so I'm told. Or so I imagine I'm told. When the men come, or when in my mind the men come in their six black shiny ships do they come in your mind too? What do you see, pussy? And when I hear their questions, all their many questions do you hear questions? Perhaps you just think they're singing songs to you. Perhaps they are singing songs to you and I just think they're asking me questions. Do you think they came today? I do. There's mud on the floor, cigarettes and whisky on my table, fish in your plate and a memory of them in my mind. And look what else they've left me. Crosswords, dictionaries and a calculator. I think I must be right in thinking they ask me questions. To come all that way and leave all these things just for the privilege of singing songs to you would be very strange behaviour. Or so it seems to me. Who can tell, who can tell.
. . . .
MAN:   I think I saw another ship in the sky today. A big white one. I've never seen a big white one. Only six small black ones. Perhaps six small black ones can look like one big white one. Perhaps I would like a glass of whisky. Yes, that seems more likely.
. . . .
Perhaps some different people are coming to see me.
. . . .
MAN:     Hello?
FORD PREFECT:    Er, excuse me, do you rule the Universe?
MAN:     I try not to. Are you wet?
FORD:    Wet! Well, doesn't it look as if we're wet?
MAN:    That's how it looks to me, but how you feel about it might be a different matter. If you find warmth makes you feel dry you'd better come in.
. . . .
ZAPHOD BEEBLEBROX:  Er, man, like what's your name?
MAN:       I don't know. Why, do you think I ought to have one? It seems odd to give a bundle of vague sensory perceptions a name.
ZARNIWOOP:  Listen. We must ask you some questions.
MAN:    All right. You can sing to my cat if you like.
ARTHUR DENT:  Would he like that?
MAN:   You'd better ask him that.
ZARNIWOOP:  How long have you been ruling the Universe?
MAN:   Ah, this is a question about the past is it?
ZARNIWOOP:  Yes.
MAN:    How can I tell that the past isn't a fiction designed to account for the discrepancy between my immediate physical sensations and my state of mind?
ZARNIWOOP:  Do you answer all questions like this?

MAN: I say what it occurs to me to say when I think I hear people say things. More I cannot say.
. . . .
ZARNIWOOP:     No. Listen. People come to you, yes?
MAN:  I think so.
ZARNIWOOP:    And they ask you to take decisions—about wars, about economies, about people, about everything going on out there in the Universe?
MAN:    I only decide about my Universe. My Universe is what happens to my eyes and ears. Anything else is surmise and hearsay. For all I know, these people may not exist. You may not exist. I say what it occurs to me to say.
ZARNIWOOP:  But don't you see? What you decide affects the fate of millions of people.

MAN: I don't know them, I've never met them. They only exist in words I think I hear. The men who come say to me, say, so and so wants to declare what we call a war. These are the facts, what do you think? And I say. Sometimes it's a smaller thing. . . .
. . . .

MAN: But it's folly to say you know what is happening to other people. Only they know. If they exist.

ZARNIWOOP: Do you think they do?

MAN: I have no opinion. How can I have?
ZARNIWOOP:  I have.
MAN:   So you say—or so I hear you say.
. . . .
ZARNIWOOP:  But don't you see that people live or die on your word?
MAN:    It's nothing to do with me, I am not involved with people. The Lord knows I am not a cruel man.
ZARNIWOOP:    Ah! You say . . . the Lord! You believe in . . .
MAN:    My cat. I call him the Lord. I am kind to him.
ZARNIWOOP:  All right. How do you know he exists? How do you know he knows you to be kind, or enjoys what you think of as your kindness?
MAN:    I don't. I have no idea. It merely pleases me to behave in a certain way to what appears to be a cat. What else do you do? Please I am tired.
. . . .

Note: This philosophical dialogue is excerpted from the final scene of the original radio series The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy.  This sequence can also be found in chapter 29 of the novel The Restaurant at the End of the Universe, with more narrative description and slightly expanded dialogue.
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Here's something completely different: a cartoon view of Aristophanes' fable in Plato's Symposium:



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“I have made a ceaseless effort not to ridicule, not to bewail, not to scorn human actions, but to understand them.” Spinoza, quoted by Michael Shermer


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2014-01-14 | Erez Aiden slaloms between the sciences and the humanities, accumulating patents, publications, and skepticism as he goes more »

2010-01-01 | Martin Gardner, mathematical gamester and champion of science and skepticism, is dead at the age of 95 more »

2015-01-22 | Science once had moral authority. But today, with scientism resurgent, skepticism reigns. The cost is paid by all of us more »

2014-09-05 | The return of Luddism. Awash in techno-giddiness and gadget infatuation, skepticism is useful, essential, and in short supply more »

2012-08-17 | Doubt is crucial to intellectual life. But a malign and exaggerated skepticism has undermined science. What's to blame, gullibility or greed? more »

2017-01-11 | Written with seen-it-all skepticism and pseudo-philosophical detachment, the feuilletonwas part journalism, part prose poem. The reaction to the new form? Utter contempt more »

2018-03-12 | Skepticism toward intellectual authority runs deep in America. It's a healthy instinct, until it's not. Tom Nichols is worried about the death of expertise more »

2014-11-05 | Here's the story we know: Scientific skepticism eroded religious faith. But the line between religion and science was not so bright more »

2010-01-01 | Penn and Tellerâ?'s act has no showgirls, fireworks, or tigers. It is suffused with a kind of irony, skepticism, and beauty seldom seen in Las Vegas more »

2013-03-28 | The question of monsters is credulity versus skepticism: Science puts to rest tales of Minotaur and Medusa. And yet we want to believe. Why? more »

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2011-01-01 | When the Civil War began, the literati - Whitman, Emerson, Dickinson, Melville - erupted in support of the Union cause. But patriotic fervor soon gave way to skepticism, confusion, and moral ambivalence more »

2016-08-31 | The replication crisis in psychology is rooted in bad incentives: skepticism isn't rewarded, unexpected findings are. But coverage of the crisis is susceptible to its own bad incentives more »

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LISTEN:: Nothing Matters? I'm Skeptical - LISTEN... Scepticism (PB)... Skeptics (rec.10/1/18)
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*Th27 - no class today, but read, find quiz answers, post comments etc.

LISTEN

Epicureans and Stoics, LH 4-5; Gissing, "Walking Experiences" (JW); FL 19-20.
ALSO RECOMMENDED: De Natura Deorum (On the Nature of the Gods) Cicero's dialogue between a Skeptic, a Stoic, and an Epicurean... & JMH's smart commentary on it in Doubt: A History*

LH 4-5 

1. According to Epicurus, fear of death is based on what, and the best way to live is what?

2. How is the modern meaning of "epicurean" different from Epicurus's?

3. What famous 20th century philosopher echoed Epicurus's attitude towards death?

4. How did Epicurus respond to the idea of divine punishment in the afterlife?

5. What was the Stoics' basic idea, and what was their aim?

6. Why did Cicero think we shouldn't worry about dying?

7. Why didn't Seneca consider life too short?

8. What does the author say might be the cost of stoicism?

JW

9. What gave Gissing peace while he was walking "penniless and miserable?"

10. What is it that "creates the world about us?"

FL 19-20

11. One writer of The Book of Progress likened the effect of a motion picture to the effect of what? 

12. Newspapers and magazines are the "first foundations" of what?

13. What two "fantasies" did the suburb satisfy?

14. What two locations are described as invented paradises?

Also of note in FL 19: "Before movies and radio, most Americans had surely never heard the voice  of more than a single major celebrity in their lifetimes... For the first time, most of the most famous Americans were not politicians or military men or writers or painters but actors-people renowned for being people they weren't." 140-41

DQ:

  • Are you afraid of death, of dying, or of any other aspect of human mortality? Why or why not? What's the best way to counter such fear?
  • Are you epicurean in any sense of the word?
  • Have you experienced the death of someone close to you? How did you handle it?
  • Do you believe in the possibility of a punitive and painful afterlife? Do you care about the lives of those who will survive you? Which do you consider more important? Why?
  • Do you consider Epicurus's disbelief in immortal souls a solution to the problem of dying, or an evasion of it? Do you find the thought of ultimate mortality consoling or mortifying?
  • How do you know, or decide, which things you can change and which you can't? 
  • Were the Stoics right to say we can always control our attitude towards events, even if we can't control events themselves?
  • Is it easier for you not to get "worked up" about small things you can't change (like the weather, or bad drivers) or large things (like presidential malfeasance and terrorist atrocites)?  Should you be equally calm in the face of both?
  • Who had the better idea about why we shouldn't be afraid to die, Epicurus or Cicero?
  • Do you waste too much time? How do you think you can make the most of the time you have?
  • Is it possible to live like a Stoic without becoming cold, heartless, and inhumane?
  • What do you think of when you hear the word "therapy"? Do you think philosophers can be good therapists? 
  • Do you think "the greatest happiness of the greatest number" is an appropriate goal in life? Can it be effectively pursued by those who shun "any direct involvement in public life"? 
  • If the motion of atoms explains everything, can we be free? 
  • Is it true that your private thoughts can never be enslaved? 
  • Do you agree with the Stoic critique of Plato's Forms? (321) 
  • How do you distinguish things that are and are not subject to your control? 

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Jefferson the Stoic-Epicurean
"Before he attained domestic happiness he had probably worked out his enduring philosophy of life; it was marked by cheerfulness not gloom, and he afterwards described it as Epicurean, though he hastened to say that the term was much misunderstood. He came to believe that happiness was the end of life, but, as has been said, he was engaged by the "peculiar conjunction of duty with happiness"; and his working philosophy was a sort of blend of Epicureanism and Stoicism, in which the goal of happiness was attained by self-discipline." Dumas Malone, Jefferson the Virginian


Jefferson Pro Epicurus, Contra Plato
This letter contains Jefferson’s explicit endorsement of Epicureanism along with his statement “I too am an Epicurean.” Jefferson shows here that he understood Epicurus’ true views to have been grossly misrepresented, and that he understood Epicurus to have been the arch-enemy of Platonism. Jefferson also states that he considered Jesus of Nazareth to have been a man of great personal merit bent on reforming the corrupt theology of Judaism, but that the theology that Jesus’ followers developed after his death was a fabrication built on a corrupt variation of Platonism. 

Here Jefferson denounces Plato (labeling The Republic as full of “whimsies, puerilities, and unintelligible jargon”) and stating of the Platonisms grafted into Christian theology that “nonsense can never be explained.”

Here Jefferson complains to Adams about Christian theology and states that “To talk of immaterial existences is to talk of nothings. To say that the human soul, angels, god, are immaterial, is to say they are nothings, or that there is no god, no angels, no soul. I cannot reason otherwise.”

Differences & similarities between Epicureans & Stoics-"Where the Epicureans believed there was only atoms and void, the Stoics believed there was only inert matter (bodies) and logos (reason) that organized matter’s motions and fate. Logos was the structuring principle, the how and the why of matter, and, like a deductive argument, had its own inner necessity. So, they too were determinists (a bit of an over-simplification), but for different reasons..."




The Ancient Greek philosopher Epicurus was born in 341 BC, on the island of Samos, a few miles off the coast of modern Turkey. He had an unusually long beard, wrote over three hundred books and was one of the most famous philosophers of his age.

What made him famous was his skilful and relentless focus on one particular subject: happiness. Previously, philosophers had wanted to know how to be good; Epicurus insisted he wanted to focus on how to be happy.

Few philosophers had ever made such a frank, down-to-earth admission of their interests before. It shocked many, especially when they heard that Epicurus had started a School for Happiness. The idea of what was going on inside was both entirely shocking and deeply titillating. A few disgruntled Epicureans made some damaging leaks about what was going on in the school. Timocrates said that Epicurus had to vomit twice a day because he spent all his time on a sofa being fed luxurious meats and fish by a team of slaves. And Diotimus the Stoic published fifty lewd letters which he said had been written by Epicurus to some young students when he’d been drunk and sexually obsessed. It’s because of such gossip that we still sometimes now use the adjective ‘Epicurean’ to describe luxury and decadence... SoL




Book of Life: Epicurus



What is the best life we can live? How can we cope with whatever the universe throws at us and keep thriving nonetheless? The ancient Greco-Roman philosophy of Stoicism explains that while we may not always have control over the events affecting us, we can have control over how we approach things. Massimo Pigliucci describes the philosophy of Stoicism...Ed.ted



‘Stoicism’ was a philosophy that flourished for some 400 years in Ancient Greece and Rome, gaining widespread support among all classes of society. It had one overwhelming and highly practical ambition: to teach people how to be calm and brave in the face of overwhelming anxiety and pain.

We still honour this school whenever we call someone ‘stoic’ or plain ‘philosophical’ when fate turns against them: when they lose their keys, are humiliated at work, rejected in love or disgraced in society. Of all philosophies, Stoicism remains perhaps the most immediately relevant and useful for our uncertain and panicky times... SoL

Pigliucci's Best Books on Stoicism


Stoicism, in contrast with a lot of contemporary philosophy, puts a great emphasis on living well: the person who studies Stoicism, if sincere, will also practise it. I know you’re both a theorist and a practitioner. Could you say a little bit about how you came to Stoicism?

We’ll get back to the theorist part because I’m definitely not an ancient philosophy scholar, so I’m not a theorist in that sense, but I’m interested in Stoicism as both theory and practice for today’s world. How did I come to it? It was a long circuitous route. A few years ago I went through a midlife crisis and switched from my first academic career as an evolutionary biologist to become a philosopher. Within philosophy I’m interested mostly in the philosophy of science, but you can’t switch to philosophy and start studying it seriously and just be limited to your own technical field of expertise; at least you can, but I don’t think you should.

I began reading more broadly, and—coming to philosophy in the second half of my life—I had a lot to catch up with. I started reading about ethics. I read Kant and Mill, and looked at modern ethics in terms of deontology and utilitarianism in all their forms. I found those ways of understanding ethics wanting. They are wonderful authors, but it didn’t click with me. Then I remembered studying philosophy back in high school – I grew up in Italy where it is mandatory to study three years of history of philosophy. I remembered reading about the ancient Greeks and Romans, and had vague recollections that these people had a very different conception of ethics.

The first stop there was obviously Aristotle. I rediscovered virtue ethics, and that really did appeal to me immediately. Then I went beyond Aristotle and read what little there is available on Epicureanism and some of the other Hellenistic schools of virtue ethics. All this interested me because it clearly embodied a much broader conception of ethics. Most contemporary ethics is focused on answering narrower questions such as: ‘Is this action right or wrong?’ and: ‘Under what circumstances is this permissible or not permissible?’ (...continues)
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Modern Stoicism-"stoic philosophy resources for modern living"...


Human Nature and the Ethical Life
Oct 1, 2018 MASSIMO PIGLIUCCI

Philosophers have been debating human nature for centuries, but in an era of increasing political vitriol and partisanship, the issues at stake are gaining new relevance. To understand what we should expect from our leaders, we must first consider what to expect of ourselves.


NEW YORK – Does human nature exist? The answer has implications for anyone concerned about ethics. In an era defined by amoral political leadership and eroding social values, thinking about the essence of humanity has never been more important.

The philosophical concept of “human nature” has a long history. In Western culture, its study began with Socrates in the fifth century BCE, but it was Aristotle who argued that human nature was characterized by unique attributes – particularly, people’s need to socialize and our ability to reason. For the Stoics of Hellenistic Greece, human nature was what gave life meaning and contributed to their embrace of cosmopolitanism and equality.

Ancient Chinese philosophers like Confucius and Menciusbelieved human nature was innately good, while Xunzi thought it was evil and lacked a moral compass. In the Judeo-Christian-Islamic traditions, human nature is fundamentally corrupted by sin, but can be redeemed by embracing God, in whose image we have been created.

Modern Western philosophers, writing in the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries, expanded on these ideas. The English philosopher Thomas Hobbes argued that our natural state leads to a life that is “solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short,” which is why we need a strong, centralized political authority (the so-called Leviathan).

By contrast, Jean-Jacques Rousseau believed that human nature is malleable, but that our original state was one without reason, language, or community. He concluded that the mismatch between our early condition and modern civilization is at the root of our unhappiness, advocating a literal return to nature. David Hume, always sensible and moderate, proposed that humans are characterized by a combination of altruism and selfishness, and that such a combination can be partially molded for the better (or worse) by culture.

Charles Darwin’s work in the mid-1800s made many of the early “essentialist” views of human nature untenable. The idea that humans had a small set of characteristics that only humans possess was at odds with the slow, gradual pace of Darwinian evolution. While Homo sapiens evolved as a particular species of primate, there are no clean breaks between our biology and that of other species.

So the philosophical debate over human nature rages on, updated with the findings of biology. Today, some philosophers interpret Rousseau and Darwin to mean that human nature itself is nonexistent, and that while biology may constrain the body, it does not restrict our minds or our volition.

Evolutionary psychologists and even some neuroscientists say that is nonsense. The message they take from Darwin (and partly from Rousseau) is that we are maladaptive in a modern context – basically, Pleistocene apes who find themselves equipped with mobile phones and nuclear weapons.

As an evolutionary biologist and philosopher of science, my view is that human nature certainly exists, but that it is not based on an “essence” of any kind. Rather, our species, just like any other biological species, is characterized by a dynamic and evolving set of traits that are statistically typical for our lineage but neither present in every member nor absent from every other species.

Why does any of this matter to someone who is not a scientist or a philosopher? There are at least two good reasons that I can think of. One is personal; the other is political.

First, how we interpret human nature has broad implications for ethics, in the ancient Greco-Roman sense of the study of how we should live our lives. Someone who holds a Judeo-Christian-Islamic view of human nature is naturally going to worship God and follow the guidance of religious commandments. By contrast, someone adopting an existentialist philosophyalong the lines of Jean-Paul Sartre or Simone de Beauvoir might believe that because “existence precedes essence,” we are radically free to shape our livesaccording to our own choices, and do not need God to help us along.

Moreover, views on human nature affect views on ethics. And today, our ethics are a mess. One recent study in the United States called Donald Drumpf’s presidency the “most unethical” in American history, while Gallup’s annual survey of US attitudes toward morality suggests a steady erosion of social mores. If we all took a moment to consider where we stood on the debate about human nature, we might gain valuable insight into our own beliefs – and by extension, the beliefs of others.

Personally, I lean toward the naturalistic ethics of the Stoics, for whom human nature constrains and suggests – but does not rigidly determine – what we can and should do. But regardless of one’s religious or philosophical leanings, reflecting on who we are – biologically and otherwise – is a good way to take more ownership of our actions. Needless to say, there are many among us who could benefit from such an exercise.

Massimo Pigliucci is the K.D. Irani Professor of Philosophy at the City College of New York. He is the author of How to Be a Stoic: Using Ancient Philosophy to Live a Modern Life. He blogs at patreon.com/PlatoFootnotes

Want To Be Happy? Live Like A Stoic For A Week

What have the Romans ever done for us? Well, obviously the roads – the roads go without saying. How about guidance for how to live in the 21st century? That seems less likely, but in fact the last few years have seen a flurry of interest in the work of three Roman Stoic philosophers who offered just that. They were Seneca, tutor to the Emperor Nero; Epictetus, a former slave; and Marcus Aurelius, himself emperor.

Modern books drawing on their ideas and repackaged as guidance for how to live well today include A Guide to the Good Life by William Irvine, Stoicism and the Art of Happiness by Donald Robertson, The Daily Stoic by Ryan Holiday and Stephen Hanselman, and How to Be a Stoic by Massimo Pigliucci. What all these books share is the conviction that people can benefit by going back and looking at the ideas of these Roman Stoics. There’s even an annual week dedicated to Stoicism.

Stoicism holds that the key to a good, happy life is the cultivation of an excellent mental state, which the Stoics identified with virtue and being rational. The ideal life is one that is in harmony with Nature, of which we are all part, and an attitude of calm indifference towards external events. It began in Greece, and was founded around 300BC by Zeno, who used teach at the site of the Painted Stoa in Athens, hence the name Stoicism. The works of the early Stoics are for the most part lost, so it is the Roman Stoics who have been most influential over the centuries, and continue to be today... (continues)
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A Stoic’s Key to Peace of Mind: Seneca on the Antidote to Anxiety

“There are more things … likely to frighten us than there are to crush us; we suffer more often in imagination than in reality.”


A Stoic’s Key to Peace of Mind: Seneca on the Antidote to Anxiety
“The truth is, we know so little about life, we don’t really know what the good news is and what the bad news is,”Kurt Vonnegut observed in discussing Hamlet during his influential lecture on the shapes of stories“The whole process of nature is an integrated process of immense complexity, and it’s really impossible to tell whether anything that happens in it is good or bad,” Alan Watts wrote a generation earlier in his sobering case for learning not to think in terms of gain or loss. And yet most of us spend swaths of our days worrying about the prospect of events we judge to be negative, potential losses driven by what we perceive to be “bad news.” In the 1930s, one pastor itemized anxiety into five categories of worries, four of which imaginary and the fifth, “worries that have a real foundation,” occupying “possibly 8% of the total.”
A twenty-four-hour news cycle that preys on this human propensity has undeniably aggravated the problem and swelled the 8% to appear as 98%, but at the heart of this warping of reality is an ancient tendency of mind so hard-wired into our psyche that it exists independently of external events. The great first-century Roman philosopher Seneca examined it, and its only real antidote, with uncommon insight in his correspondence with his friend Lucilius Junior, later published as Letters from a Stoic(public library) — the timeless trove of wisdom that gave us Seneca on true and false friendship and the mental discipline of overcoming fear... (continues)
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"The conceit of The Nature of the Gods was that many years earlier Cicero’s friend Cotta, a great orator and priest, had invited the young Cicero to his home. When Cicero arrived he found himself in the company of three famous men—one an Epicurean, one a Stoic, and one, Cotta himself, a Skeptic from the Academy—engaged in a heated conversation about the gods. The Epicurean and the Stoic have some very definite ideas about the matter; Cotta, the Skeptic, claims to know nothing for sure, but also claims to be expert at seeing falsehood..."

Hecht is also very good on my favorite Stoic, the Emperor Marcus Aurelius: "Aurelius stands out as a man struggling to internalize the truths of philosophy; his Meditations read like a sage counseling himself through some dark night or ethical confusion. That he was emperor, and perhaps as close to a philosopher-king as the West would ever know, has long fueled interest in his Meditations, but it needn’t have. The book is a marvel of insight and advice. It is not particularly original in its ideas—it is mostly a mixture of Stoicism and Epicureanism—but the voice here is new and warm, and the advice, on all sorts of subjects, is good. It feels good to read it."

Start reading it for free: http://a.co/i8pkJ5A

― from "Doubt: A History: The Great Doubters and Their Legacy of Innovation from Socrates and Jesus to Thomas Jefferson and Emily Dickinson"

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“If you are distressed by anything external, the pain is not due to the thing itself, but to your estimate of it; and this you have the power to revoke at any moment.” 

“Never let the future disturb you. You will meet it, if you have to, with the same weapons of reason which today arm you against the present.” 
― Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

“It is the power of the mind to be unconquerable.” 

“Until we have begun to go without them, we fail to realize how unnecessary many things are. We've been using them not because we needed them but because we had them.” 

“For what prevents us from saying that the happy life is to have a mind that is free, lofty, fearless and steadfast - a mind that is placed beyond the reach of fear, beyond the reach of desire, that counts virtue the only good, baseness the only evil, and all else but a worthless mass of things, which come and go without increasing or diminishing the highest good, and neither subtract any part from the happy life nor add any part to it?
A man thus grounded must, whether he wills or not, necessarily be attended by constant cheerfulness and a joy that is deep and issues from deep within, since he finds delight in his own resources, and desires no joys greater than his inner joys.” 

“It is not the man who has too little that is poor, but the one who hankers after more.” 

“If what you have seems insufficient to you, then though you possess the world, you will yet be miserable.” 
― Seneca

“Remember, it is not enough to be hit or insulted to be harmed, you must believe that you are being harmed. If someone succeeds in provoking you, realize that your mind is complicit in the provocation. Which is why it is essential that we not respond impulsively to impressions; take a moment before reacting, and you will find it easier to maintain control.” 

“What really frightens and dismays us is not external events themselves, but the way in which we think about them. It is not things that disturb us, but our interpretation of their significance.” 

“Remember to act always as if you were at a symposium. When the food or drink comes around, reach out and take some politely; if it passes you by don't try pulling it back. And if it has not reached you yet, don't let your desire run ahead of you, be patient until your turn comes. Adopt a similar attitude with regard to children, wife, wealth and status, and in time, you will be entitled to dine with the gods. Go further and decline these goods even when they are on offer and you will have a share in the gods' power as well as their company. That is how Diogenes, Heraclitus and philosophers like them came to be called, and considered, divine.” 
― Epictetus, The Art of Living


98 comments:

  1. Do you agree that withholding commitment minimizes disappointment?

    I don't agree with this. I think it boils down to the saying: "It's better to have loved and lost than to have never loved at all."

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    1. I slightly agree that withholding commitment minimizes disappointment. I agree with the statement but it would be a sad way to live, and I agree with your quote of having loved and lost than have never loved at all
      - Michael DeLay #5

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    2. I agree that living an uncommitted life is not the best way to live, but can it, at the very least, mitigate our disappointment? My thought is that disappointment is a potential byproduct of living a committed life. Committing to life is to have expectations, and when expectations are not met there is disappointment. Therefore, it would seem that having no commitments would eliminate the potential for disappointment.

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    3. Sorta going off of what Michael said, but at times it just very discouraging to feel like you're one of the few people putting forth an honest effort and being considerate of others. People tend to expect to get back roughly what they give, and constantly being let down because someone is inconsiderate does push to stop committing unrequited effort. (The unrequited implication there is that I am talking about love - I'm not particularly)

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    4. I agree when you have no commitment to a certain outcome you are able to experience the experience for what it is not what you want it to be. With no expectation you are not held to a certain outcome so you wont get as disappointed as you would if you were attached to a certain outcome.

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  2. What kinds of things do you tend to worry about? What strategies might lessen your worry?

    I have anxiety so I worry about A LOT of things. I think it's important, even for people who don't have anxiety, to learn how to use coping mechanisms. The best one for me personally is just distraction. If I start to worry about something a lot and start fixating on it, I get my mind to focus on something else for a while, then when I come back to that thing that was making me anxious earlier, I usually feel differently about it.

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    1. I understand where you come from, I get like that too, and when i get like that I usually do a horrible job at addressing the thing that causes me to worry.

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    2. I have noticed that I worry about things when I have a lot to do in a set time limit. I become overwhelmed with what I should do first, how long each task will take, and whether I will finish them all on time. If I prioritize my tasks and just simply begin to do the things on my list, my mind is more focused on the task at hand and less worried.
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    3. I worry or used to worry about my future a lot since this is my senior year and everybody is asking "What are you going to do with your life?" It caused me so much stress until I realize I am the master of my fate and God will guide me and i don't have to have it all figured out right now.

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    4. Anonymous4:25 PM CST

      I often find that when I worry it helps to meditate. Not necessarily sitting down and closing your eyes. More so just focusing on my breathing and bringing myself into the present.

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  3. "What kinds of things do you tend to worry about? What strategies might lessen your worry?"

    What don't I worry about. It's really a mixture of worry and stress. I tend to listen to music a lot if I begin to feel overwhelmed. Sometimes I may take a nap just to escape for a little while. After I've taken a small mental break, I'm usually okay afterwards.

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    1. haha I relate to this a lot. I used to when ever I felt stressed in high school I would just take a nap. I guess maybe some advice would be to work on things earlier rather than procrastinate, but I really can't be talking because I procrastinate all the time.

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    2. I refuse to admit to procrastinating, i simply wait until i am as old and wise as possible

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  4. "What kinds of things do you tend to worry about? What strategies might lessen your worry?"

    I worry about situations that are unknown, if that makes sense. Being in an uncomfortable state but I still try and push my self to do those things because doing things that are out of my comfort zone cause that gives me an opportunity to grow.

    - Michael DeLay #5

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    1. I completely understand that. I have to force myself out of a lot of my comfort zones, but it definitely helps us to improve and expand ourselves as people.

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    2. I understand exactly where you're coming from. Even if you don't grow from those moments where you have to push yourself over personal boundaries. It at least gives you reassurance that if you ever have to do it again, you'll be able to handle it.

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  5. Are you afraid of death, of dying, or of any other aspect of human mortality? Why or why not? What's the best way to counter such fear?

    I think we all fear death on a very basic level, or survival instinct. It’s what helped up get to this stage in our evolution. If we didn’t care about our own survival then we would not have made it as a species. However, intellectually I think some of us get hung up on the fact that it’s difficult to comprehend no longer existing and I think that gives some of us anxiety concerning our mortality. I like to remember that when I am gone I will not have a self to be concerned about and that helps me focus on the present.
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    1. I can agree. Death is a weird concept. The only fear I have before dying is not accomplishing everything that I hope to and making sure my family is well off after I'm gone. The main thing that keeps me at ease is telling myself that life doesn't end after death. I have a hard time believing that once we die that that's it. We have to go somewhere whether that's Heaven, Hell, or into another body.

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    2. I feel the same way. I personally believe in a God and consider myself "saved". It's a hard thing to grasp that we just magically appeared from dirt and dust. There has to be something greater out there that shows after death. The reality is that slowly, we are all dying. That's just how life is, and that's why you have to take advantage of now.

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    3. I think fearing death is only natural. People don't know what exactly is going to happen and people fear what they don't know.

      -Michael DeLay #5

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    4. No i am not scared of death because we all know we aren't going to live forever ,and I don't spend my days living thinking about how I am going to die.

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  6. Is it really possible to believe nothing? Or therapeutic to try?

    I do not think it possible to believe in anything. To not believe in anything at all means that you do not believe in your own presence. How can someone live with that mindset? I do not think it is healthy.

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    1. I agree, that does seem absurd in my mind to go through life not believing that you or anyone around you even exists.

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    2. I agree also. It seems almost impossible to me to believe in the concept of not believing in anything. Isn't that a belief in itself?

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    3. I think its impossible as well. Everyone believes in somthing whether they realize it or not they have a certain opinion or gut feeling on everything.
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  7. One has to believe and accept that one is breathing, eating, doing activities which define him or her as being ALIVE - for if that acceptance stops one is nothing better than vegetation. Going a step further it is “DEATH” - which translates into non belief in everything or belief in nothing. -
    Jivraj Sandhu,

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  8. Alexis Mahon11:01 PM CST

    1. What was the main teaching of skepticism? ("Scepticism" in Br. spelling)

    2. How did Pyrrho feel about the senses?

    3. Where did Pyrrho visit as a young man and probably encounter influences for his philosophy?

    4. How did Pyrrho say you could become free from all worry? Does Warburton think this would work for most of us?

    5. How does modern skepticism differ from its ancient predecessor?

    6. What is the opposite of skepticism?


    1. No one knows anything. You shouldn’t rely on what you believe to be true. The best option is to keep an open mind.

    2. He decided never to trust them because our senses often mislead us.

    3. India

    4. Recognize that nothing matters. That way nothing will affect your state of mind, which will be one of inner tranquility. Few of us will ever achieve the kind of indifference that he recommended. And not everyone will be lucky enough to have a team of friends to save them from their worst mistakes.

    5. There is a great tradition of moderate scepticism, of questioning assumptions and looking closely at the evidence for what we believe, without attempting to live as if everything was in doubt all of the time.

    6. dogmatism

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  9. Alexis Mahon11:05 PM CST

    9. What theme park opened in Brooklyn at the turn of the 20th century?

    10. Who was Robert Love Taylor and what did he lecture about?

    11. What 1915 movie contributed to the growth of the KKK?

    12. What do southerners turn away from, according to The Mind of the South?

    13. What was foolish, according to the modernist New Theology of the early 20th century?

    14. How did Christian modernists reconcile scripture with science?

    15. What happened in Dayton TN in the summer of 1925, and what did Clarence Darrow say about "what Tennessee had done"?

    16. What was the "cultural impact" for each side of the Scopes trial?

    9. a slavery theme park

    10. He was Tennessee’s former governor and future U.S. senator that lectured on the “glories of the old South”.

    11. The Birth of a Nation

    12. Southerners turn away from reality

    13. Reducing history to a battle between God and Satan

    14. astronomers, geologists, paleontologists, and biologists were simply discovering the operational details of God’s miraculous creation

    15. the Monkey Trial;

    16. Each side was confirmed in its beliefs.


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  10. Alexis Mahon11:16 PM CST

    Were you taught in school about the history of racism in post-Emancipation America, and specifically about the KKK?

    I am going to answer this question from my African American perspective...
    I grew up in a very urban community and the school curriculum was very basic. Of course they taught us about slavery in America because that is apart of any US history course. However, my school failed to elaborate on the severity of the KKK and the long term effect of racism. This is exactly how black people have been miseducated for centuries and it still continues today. Because I was not taught about the issue in school, I took it upon myself to educate myself and my peers of our history and how this country has failed us time and time again. Everything that I currently know about the KKK is from reading and researching on my own time. A lot of black people, especially the younger generation, see history as extremely boring and just "something they need to pass". Regardless of what everyone else thinks, the truth is this: it is our duty to learn why we are the way we are, why we still suffer and can't see it because of systematic racism, and how the KKK are people that are right in front of our faces.

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  11. What kinds of things do you tend to worry about? What strategies might lessen your worry?

    Personally, I worry about everything, but I have always bee that way. There truly isn't a single thing out there that can manage to not stress me out or not make me worry about it. That's just who I am and ow I always will be, I guess. Some strategies that I use heavily involve being outdoors. That breath of fresh air can just melt away stress, and even help me clear my mind enough to get some peace and allow me to work my way through some things. Another thing I do that seriously let's me unwind is to clean, organize, and get rid of. If my surroundings feel overly cluttered then my mind will as well, and it eats me alive. It makes me keep my apartment clean, though! Lastly, my dog Rudy helps me so much when I'm feeling a little overcome. Walking him, taking him to the dog park, or just chilling out with him at home are some of the best things ever.

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  12. Are you afraid of death, of dying, or of any other aspect of human mortality? Why or why not? What's the best way to counter such fear?

    I would say I'm more terrified about being forgotten by the world, than dying. It makes me extremely uneasy that maybe a generation down the line after my death, any trace of my life on this Earth will start to become translucent as if i was never here. There is a bit of fear in death, but its something that occurs in everyone life some day, and once you accept that it may ease the burden of fear a bit. So i'll say the best way to counter fear of death is coming to terms with death, and an aid to doing this is religion, choosing an after life, helps people feel comfort with their own mortality.

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  13. How much skepticism is appropriate? How much is too much?

    Uhh the appropriate amount of Skepticism is probably along the lines of questioning things within your own society. Too much is when you begin to be skeptical of your own existence.

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    1. Anonymous4:02 PM CST

      I agree, it's good to have a level of skepticism in your life. If you didn't you would be quite foolish, but there is a fine line. Once you cross into the realm of being skeptical of everything then you can never truly enjoy life.

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  14. Is it really possible to believe nothing? Or therapeutic to try?
    I believe that it is not possible to believe in nothing. Every religion believes in something even atheists believe in something. Everyone believes in something even if it is the tiniest belief.

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    1. I agree with you! Every religion, does have some sort of believe,even atheist. I do think it could be therapeutic because sometimes people may not know what to believe and thinking you "don't believe in anything" seems like it would help you not feel forced and confused on deciding what you believe in.

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    2. To a degree its spilling hairs, it's sorta the same thing in my opinion. Just like lack of action can be argued as an action itself (Not interfering, short of immediate major harm to you, is arguable as consent) the same here - when you so strongly believe nothing, aren't you sorta defining the world in a very metaphorically similar (but literally very different) way to those who strongly believe in god and that everything is predetermined? To me, it sorta leans towards just being the mirror opposite of the more common "Free will doesn't exist" belief; they both at their core insist you know nothing. And from there, I can't find a ton of logical differences just different colored lenses. Maybe it is just a therapeutic way for changing your lense on the world

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    3. To be a little more clear, both my examples believe in mostly 'nothing', except the religious person believes there is another 'person' who knows everything (God).

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    4. I agree with you. There has to be something in order for us to be where we stand.

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  15. What kinds of things do you tend to worry about? What strategies might lessen your worry?
    I try not to worry about a lot but sometimes I worry about where my life is at and what i am going to do in the future to live a better life. I usually just try to walk, exercise, or ride my skateboard in order to take the time to think

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    1. I'm pretty sure you're not the only one that is worry about the future. Life is hard and complicated, we need to believe in ourselves in order for us to move forward.

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  16. Do you believe in the possibility of a punitive and painful afterlife?

    I believe in heaven and the idea of hell, but I also believe in purgatory. I think purgatory is for those who will go to heaven, but are not cleansed of their wrong-doings yet. I think purgatory is the great equalizer because there is no suffering only learning about the consequences of your actions on Earth. I think it's possible to be in purgatory forever, and it's possible to be in purgatory indefinitely because it will take "forever" to realize the consequences of your actions. How can you truly learn the consequences of your actions? One way I see as possible is literally being placed in others shoes who got the short end of the stick due to your own choices, and have to experience the negative way you made them feel. This is only a theory, but for me it's hard to believe people are simply suffering forever, does not seem very realistic or effective. So I guess, no, I do not believe in a painful afterlife. Possibly emotional painful, causing you to truly feel sorry for your actions, but definitely not physical.

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    1. Now that I think about it physical pain does not make much sense in the first place considering I believe after death our physical bodies are left on Earth.

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    2. I personally don't believe in hell, mostly because I don't think that punishing people afterlife truly makes sense. However, I seemed to agree with what you believe as well. A physical pain doesn't seem as possible as emotional.

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    3. All physical pain is electrical signals in the mind, so if your mind is there the concept of hell could use the electrical signals or even memories of pain. However I dont truly believe there is a place of divine punishment either

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    4. One thing I was interested to see was an argument that the whole "Eternal torment" wasn't placed into the bible for ~500 years after christ, and a lot of it may have been added to help quell the masses back then.

      https://medium.com/@BrazenChurch/how-when-the-idea-of-eternal-torment-invaded-church-doctrine-7610e6b70815

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  17. What kinds of things do you tend to worry about? What strategies might lessen your worry?

    I worry about everything, even the smallest details. What strategies help me are trying to have everything planned out. (Of course some things won't work with this strategy.) Something else that helps me out is knowing that you always learn from any mistake that may occur.

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  18. Is it true that your private thoughts can never be enslaved?
    I don't believe your private thoughts can never be enslaved because if you are not able to express your thoughts, than they are stuck with you, even if you would like to put it out.

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    1. Anonymous3:39 PM CST

      I agree with this not everything you think about can be expressed but they don't necessarily count as enslavement.

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  19. What do you think of when you hear the word "therapy"? Do you think philosophers can be good therapists?
    When I think of therapy, I think of anything that can calm you down or make you a better person. I do believe philosophers can be good therapist. Specifically because they can allow us to be more open minded, which personally I would enjoy due to not only having to be stuck with my side of things.

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  20. Do you waste too much time? How do you think you can make the most of the time you have?
    I do believe I waste too much time, however depending on a person, "too much time to waste" can vary to people. I believe you make the most of time by doing what you want, and what will allow your life to head in the direction you want it to.

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    1. Wasting too much time seems like something that is very subjective to me. I feel like there are days when I waste more time than others, but I always try to balance it out between "wasting time" and being productive. I think making sure you are aware of the things you need to do, things you want to do, and how much time you have allows you to make the most of your time.

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    2. I agree, one person may think someone is wasting time but to them that may be important. I think it varies on person to person butI think people can waste time doing things such as procrastinating or just being on their phone accomplishing nothing but once again it depends on the person.
      -Michael DeLay #5

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  21. "What kinds of things do you tend to worry about? What strategies might lessen your worry?
    I worry most about my daughter and that my ex will not let me be in her life. The only way for me to lessen this is by fixing it. So I'm going through the court systems now.

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    1. Anonymous3:18 PM CST

      I hope that everything works out in your favor, just keep your head up !
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  22. Are you afraid of death, of dying, or of any other aspect of human mortality? Why or why not? What's the best way to counter such fear?
    I am afraid of dying, mostly because I don't know what's going to happen, and if my beliefs are going the right way or not. I personally am open to many things, however one thing I can't settle about,is the religion I truly believe. I like specific aspects of some? However it makes me feel like it's all for my comfort, which is how i counter my fear.

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  23. Yes I think philosophers can be a good therapist but I think philosophers will only tell u what they think is right not what is right in a general sense.

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    1. Anonymous3:13 PM CST

      I agree that philosophers will only tell you what they believe is right instead of taking everything into a complete whole.

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  24. What are you skeptical about?

    I often find myself skeptical about any new piece of technology that requires the user to sacrifice privacy in order to use it. I have a strong distrust of “home” devices like Amazon Alexa or Google Home, since they are often placed in private rooms and are left with their microphones on indefinitely. It’s terribly Orwellian and I’m pretty surprised to see how many people are willingly sacrificing the privacy of their household conversations in exchange for a device that plays a song when you tell it to. That doesn’t seem like a very even trade off to me.

    Even the GPS devices on our cell phones gather information about the places we travel. Services like Google Maps say it’s for our own convenience so it can do things like tell us how many minutes our work commute will take before we leave the house, but that information is still being stored in servers somewhere. It feels like only a matter of time before that information starts being sold, the same way Facebook sold users’ private information. Except instead of being sold to advertisers, it may be sold to law enforcement or a strict totalitarian government wanting to monitor the actions of civilians.

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    1. I know, I've noticed that whatever product I talk about, the next thing I see on my Instagram feed is Advertisements for that product. Yeah I heard of the suspicion of Google Home listening? I am kinda skeptical about it too.

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    2. I agree with your idea of technology. It is possible that, we are being watch by the government with the technology we used.

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  25. Do you believe in the possibility of a punitive and painful afterlife? I believe in heaven and hell and that the wicked will be punished and the kind will be rewarded

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    1. Guillermo Fonseca2:02 PM CST

      I too believe in that in the afterlife those souls that are tainted with the blood of the innocent will suffer in the pits of hell muaahahaha
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    2. Anonymous4:14 PM CST

      I don't necessarily believe in an afterlife that determines a good or bad state. These ideas are all very relative and rely on the morality of the individual. I do like Buddhist beliefs of Nirvana in which the concept of an afterlife does not exist, rather we are able to strip away concepts of the self to achieve enlightenment.

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  26. Skepticism can be beneficial in the right amount and application. Most people should use skepticism so as not to be easily manipulated. Skepticism can help people to reinforce their beliefs and to strengthen their way of thought. However skepticism can be harmful as many can use it to target others and their ideologies, sometimes it's best to just keep quiet.
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    1. Guillermo Fonseca1:55 PM CST

      I completely agree, one never truly knows whats going on so its better to just sit back and stick to what you know.
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    2. Anonymous3:08 PM CST

      I agree with this. It is better to sit back and not try to comment on everything because you aren't in everyone's shoes.
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  27. https://youtu.be/DsTWlKgXniw

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  28. https://youtu.be/MLKrmw906TM

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  29. Guillermo Fonseca1:51 PM CST

    How can science and religion be reconciled? Or can they?
    --Its hard to say if religion and science could ever be reconciled. One must think about when did science and religion first started to contradict each other. Both sides have questions that the other cannot fully answer. Science and religion could be reconciled but it would have to be at the compromise of the people.
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    1. Some scientist, like professors I encountered here at MTSU, say science is God's perfect mechanism to creation.

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  30. Joseph Cooper 11

    Do you agree that withholding commitment minimizes disappointment?

    Unless I am sure I do not like to commit to anything. A lot of times my itinerary is dictated in the moment, so I try surprise people with an apperance as opposed to disappoint them with an absence.

    If the senses sometimes mislead, is the most rational response to mistrust them entirely?

    I find depending on my state visiual stimuli are pretty hit or miss. When I found myself on having one of those days, I try not to overreact to incoming motion because I percive it as closer than it is.

    What kinds of things do you tend to worry about? What strategies might lessen your worry?

    As a general thing, I worry about the future a lot. My future, loved ones' futures, the world's future it can be a little overwhelming at times. When I get too bogged down I tend to try yo ditract myself or write, but it most productive when I share those feelings with those around me.

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  31. Anonymous3:05 PM CST

    Is it really possible to believe nothing? Or therapeutic to try?
    I don't think that it is really possible to believe in nothing because as humans it is already programmed into us to be curious, skeptical, and viewing the world in our own way based on a list of things. I do believe that it is therapeutic to at least try to believe in something even if you "don't".
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    1. That's true if you think about it, we as humans tend to question everything, so it really hard to believe that someone can not stand by something.

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  32. Is it easier for you not to get "worked up" about small things you can't change (like the weather, or bad drivers) or large things (like presidential malfeasance and terrorist atrocites)? Should you be equally calm in the face of both?

    Personally I get worked up equally about the both, but thats because I stress about those things. I do believe when one is facing each of them it better to do so in a calm state of mind. That way we are rationally thinking, and not with our emotions.

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  33. Are you afraid of death, of dying, or of any other aspect of human mortality? Why or why not? What's the best way to counter such fear?

    I am not afraid of death, I see it as a stage of life. What I am afraid of is the pain that comes before death. They say that your life "flashes before your eyes" before death, I just hope that my life has been fulfilling enough.

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  34. Have you experienced the death of someone close to you? How did you handle it?
    Yes, it was a very upsetting time but I got through it with the support of loved ones and those around me.

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  35. Do you waste too much time? How do you think you can make the most of the time you have?
    I think I do waste too much time. I think that the best I can do is make the most out of life and help as many people as I can.

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  36. Do you believe in the possibility of a punitive and painful afterlife?
    I believe in heaven and hell and that the evil will go to hell and the good will go to heaven.

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  37. Were you taught in school about the history of racism in post-Emancipation America, and specifically about the KKK?

    Yes, we were taught about slavery and segregation mostly about the activist during those times like Harriet Tubman, M.L.K, and Rosa Parks.As i got older i see they didnt go deeper into the whole beginning and how the slaves were ripped of the culture and names. I've seen movies and shows that can teach you more about them than school. I also noticed that while in school they never got deep into the history of post slavery other than those couple of activities and the things they fought. The KKK was never really talked about unless a student brought it up and caused a awkward silence in class. I've learnt about the KKK once it was only a brief which what made me look it up myself and going deeper into what they are about.we were only told them hated the blacks and wanted them to be property again, but I learnt they also killed them and attacked anyone who wasn't white American. For some odd reason i also learnt about the unnerving dorky way they give ranks like the Imperial Wizard.

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  38. What are you skeptical about?

    I have always been having doubts about the fact that NASA says Earth is the only planet "KNOWN" to hold life. I believe they know there is something out there that is not the weird aliens we have imagined up, but another human maybe more prominent or advanced than our society.As a child i would stare at myself in the mirror and wonder if I was really from the same human or whatever. Or wonder if the reason for race is because of nix breeding with aliens many years ago that was never noticed as humans began to change and become more diverse.

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  39. Are you afraid of death, of dying, or of any other aspect of human mortality? Why or why not? What's the best way to counter such fear?

    Yes, i am very afraid of dying, just concept of not being able to think or imagine scares me. Plus the thoughts on afterlife by many religions are hard to think about if any are true or some what accurate. I always wonder what if you become a ghost and travel around, or your brain goes into a forever loop of your life you lived, or nothing at all. The best way to counter this fear of nothingness is to believe you have something to look forward to. So I try to believe that life isn't a straight line to death, but a cycle. I kinda hope reincarnation is real, so that I can become a fly and live a short life so I can get to the next life.

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    1. Guillermo Fonseca12:07 PM CST

      That's a really good way to counter that way of thinking. Like you said life does not just come to a stop at death but to look forward to the fact that it could be a new start.
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  40. What kinds of things do you tend to worry about? What strategies might lessen your worry?

    I worry about what other's are thinking or wanting to do. Like i wonder if the little voice telling them to punch a baby is loud or like the others. I worry about this because i have those random moments when someones kid want be quiet and all you want to do is throw it into a wall. I would never do it , but i wonder if people look at someone I care for or me and think the same thing. To lessen my worries i remember that if I am able to ignore it the majority of people can.
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  41. Guillermo Fonseca12:02 PM CST

    Can you think of an example when you were misled by your senses in a situation that had serious consequences?
    -Once I entered the kitchen at my work and slipped on an ice cube. I was holding glass and cut my hand open.
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  42. Alexis Mahon1:21 PM CST

    LH 4-5
    1. According to Epicurus, fear of death is based on what, and the best way to live is what?
    2. How is the modern meaning of "epicurean" different from Epicurus's?
    3. What famous 20th century philosopher echoed Epicurus's attitude towards death?
    4. How did Epicurus respond to the idea of divine punishment in the afterlife?
    5. What was the Stoics' basic idea, and what was their aim?
    6. Why did Cicero think we shouldn't worry about dying?
    7. Why didn't Seneca consider life too short?
    8. What does the author say might be the cost of stoicism?


    1.Fear of death is based on bad logic; The best way to live is to make your life go better to help you find happiness.
    2.It is quite opposite of the modern meaning.
    3.Ludwig Wittgenstein
    4.He said that the gods weren’t really interested in their creations. They exist apart from us and don’t take part in the world.
    5.We should only worry about the things we can change; they aimed for a calm state of mind.
    6.Souls live forever. We should both accept the natural process of growing older and recognize that the attitude we take to that process need not be pessimistic.
    7.The problem as he saw it was not how short our lives are, but rather how badly most of us use what time we have.
    8.We become cold, heartless, and perhaps even less human.




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  43. Alexis Mahoin5:45 PM CST

    FL 19-20
    11. One writer of The Book of Progress likened the effect of a motion picture to the effect of what?
    12. Newspapers and magazines are the "first foundations" of what?
    13. What two "fantasies" did the suburb satisfy?
    14. What two locations are described as invented paradises?

    11. the magic of childhood
    12. modern celebrity
    13. The suburbs provided nostalgia for the undefiled green republic and they satisfied white people’s nostalgia for a time when they lived almost exclusively among other white people.
    14. Florida and California

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  44. Alexis Mahon5:54 PM CST

    What do you think of when you hear the word "therapy"? Do you think philosophers can be good therapists?

    To me, the word therapy can be defined as anything that is intended to physical, mentally, or emotionally soothe or heal someone. Philosophers can be good therapists; however, it can sometimes be clouded by their logical and intellectual thinking. I think that even when a philosopher’s intensions are to be helpful, their extensive knowledge can get in the way of their compassion.

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  45. Alexis Mahon6:03 PM CST

    Do you waste too much time? How do you think you can make the most of the time you have?

    I don’t think I waste too much time. I try to make sure everything I do is helping me grow closer to my life’s goals. To me, making the most of your time is making sure you have done something that can be remembered once you have left this earth. It is making sure that you did something that contributed to at least one change. Personally, I can make the most of my time by just staying focused and doing what I came here to do.

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      I agree I spend a lot of time studying and strategizing but I don't think I ever waste to much time.
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  46. Connor Coughran 0612:30 PM CST

    **Do you agree that withholding commitment minimizes disappointment?**

    I believe that withholding commitment could minimize the disappointment of failure, but you would also probably experience regret/disappointment of not trying. In the end, I think it is better to commit and fail than to not commit at all.

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  47. Connor Coughran 0612:32 PM CST

    **If the senses sometimes mislead, is the most rational response to mistrust them entirely?**

    Not at all... senses were given to us so that we could gather information to make decisions. Reason and logic should be used to judge the validity of our senses, but that does not mean we should mistrust them.

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  48. Anonymous3:33 PM CST

    If the senses sometimes mislead, is the most rational response to mistrust them entirely?
    No you shouldn't mistrust your senses entirely because one everything happens for a reason and sometimes you just have to revaluate.
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  49. Is it possible to live like a Stoic without becoming cold, heartless, and inhumane?

    Well, the ancient Stoics believed we should learn to control our emotions, which for the most part I agree with. But then they go on to say that we should try to remove them altogether whenever possible, which I think is a terrible idea as it will certainly lead to becoming cold and heartless. So, it depends on whether we go to that extreme. But the teaching of how our thoughts are up to us and it's a matter of choice whether we react to things with certain emotions seems to be very beneficial. To that extent, I think it is possible to live like a Stoic and not become inhumane, just as long as we don't fall into a feeling of indifference for everything in life. I think we can learn to control our emotions while still remaining soft for the world and the people in it.

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  50. Are you afraid of death, of dying, or of any other aspect of human mortality? Why or why not? What's the best way to counter such fear?

    Oh definitely. I remember when I was in elementary school I actually had to go see the counselor because the idea of death and my parents dying scared me so badly. Being young though it's incredibly difficult to really wrap your head around the idea that you will indeed die someday. We've only ever known what it is to be alive and it's impossible to truly imagine what death is like. It's a very abstract concept. We have evolved to fear the unknown and death is the ultimate unknown. I think the best way to encounter the fear of death is by facing it head on. Trying to avoid it and refusing to accept it as reality only serves to worsen the fear in the end. That's why today I think people are more scared of death than ever. We have acquired all of this knowledge and technology for the sole purpose of not dying and extending life at all costs because we consider death as the number one worst thing that could happen. To get over the fear we have to be open to the notion that it's a part of life and live everyday with that in mind.

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  51. Do you consider Epicurus's disbelief in immortal souls a solution to the problem of dying, or an evasion of it? Do you find the thought of ultimate mortality consoling or mortifying?

    I consider it an evasion to the problem. He just dismisses the possibility as something that isn't likely to happen, which is like plugging your ears and singing to something you don't want to hear. He never seeks to answer the what if. I don't find the idea of ultimate mortality comforting necessarily, but I definitely find it motivating and encouraging in the way it pushes us to live. The knowledge of an inevitable end makes life and everything in it that much more precious.

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