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Thursday, October 3, 2019

Quiz Mar 17

Machiavelli, Hobbes, LH 9-10; Belloc, "The Brienzer Grat" (JW)FL 22.

LH
1. What did Machiavelli say a leader needs to have?

2. Machiavelli's philosophy is described as being "rooted" in what?

3. The idea that leaders should rule by fear is based on what view of human nature?

4. Life outside society would be what, according to Hobbes?

5. What fear influenced Hobbes' writings?

6. Hobbes did not believe in the existence of what?

JW
7. Belloc says that "no one should attempt great efforts without" what?

8. Where does Belloc realize he is after the fog has cleared?

FL
9. Where was the New Age philosophy/lifestyle invented?

10. What central New Age tenet did Jane Roberts "channel," and from whom?

11. What "sudden and enthusiastic embrace" helped turn America into fantasyland?

12. What bestseller whose popularity announced the mainstreaming of fantastical beliefs did Andersen's mother read?




Thomas Hobbes was a 17th-century English philosopher who is on hand to guide us through one of the thorniest issues of politics: to what extent should we patiently obey rulers, especially those who are not very good – and to what extent should we start revolutions and depose governments in search of a better world?

Hobbes’s thinking is inseparable from one major event that began when he was 64 years old – and was to mark him so deeply, it coloured all this subsequent thinking (remarkably he died when he was 91 and everything he is remembered for today he wrote after the age of 60).

This event was the English Civil war, a vicious, divisive, costly and murderous conflict that raged across England for almost a decade and pitted the forces of King against Parliament, leading to the deaths of some 200,000 people on both sides.

Hobbes was by nature a deeply peaceful and cautious man. He hated violence of all kinds, a disposition that began at the age of four, when his own father, a clergyman, was disgraced, and abandoned his wife and family, after he’d got into a fight with another vicar on the steps of his parish church in a village in Wiltshire.

The work for which we chiefly remember Hobbes, Leviathan, was published in 1651. It is the most definitive, persuasive and eloquent statement ever produced as to why one should obey government authority, even of a very imperfect kind, in order to avoid the risk of chaos and bloodshed... (SoL, continues)






CHAPTER 6. CURRICULUM: POLITICAL THEORY
Machiavelli's Advice for Nice Guys

Machiavelli was a 16th-century Florentine political thinker with powerful advice for nice people who don’t get very far. His thought pivots around a central, uncomfortable observation: that the wicked tend to win. And they do so because they have a huge advantage over the good: they are willing to act with the darkest ingenuity and...

CHAPTER 6. CURRICULUM: POLITICAL THEORY
Niccolò Machiavelli

Our assessment of politicians is torn between hope and disappointment. On the one hand, we have an idealistic idea that a politician should be an upright hero, a man or woman who can breathe new moral life into the corrupt workings of the state. However, we are also regularly catapulted into cynicism when we realise...

DQ

  • Do you agree with Machiavelli that it's okay for a leader to lie if he perceives it to be in the best interest of his people?
  • Do you agree with Hobbes that, left to our own devices and without the authority of the state and its institutions and laws to govern us, we would create a "war of all against all"?
  • Is there a sharp difference between writing well and thinking logically? Why do you think so many scholastic/medieval philosophers were poor writers? How can you become a better writer and clearer thinker?
  • Was Machiavelli right, about how power works in the real world?
  • If European explorers like Vespucci understood that European knowledge was at best incomplete, at worst just wrong, why were so many of them still so confident that the natives they encountered in the New World were sub-human? Why in general are humans still so quick to denigrate those who are different, or who have different customs?
  • Is there any proper place for astrology and magic in the modern world?
  • COMMENT: 'The man who does not read has no advantage over the man who cannot read." -Mark Twain. 
  • It's been estimated that the average social media user could read 200 books in the time they spend online. What would they gain? What would they lose? What's the right balance?
  • Do you trust your own conscience and experience more than that of religious leaders like the Pope? Why? 441
  • Does knowledge need foundations? Why or why not?
  • Can you agree with Machiavelli about leadership without being a sexist or an autocrat?
  • Are people fundamentally selfish, in your experience? Are you? Can selfish people change?
  • What memorable hiking experience have you had? Tell us about it!
  • Our JW author emphasizes the importance of beginning any great effort under the right circumstances. Do you have a similar opinion? What do you make sure to do before you begin a signficant task?



Old posts-

Machiavelli & Hobbes, Osgood & Scully

What a memorable weekend, beginning Friday night with Ron Howard’s Eight Days A Week at the Belcourt. The lads from Liverpool are timelessly, endlessly inspiring. Opie still impresses too.
Then there was Saturday’s superior sushi at Sonobana. Try the crawdad roll, if you go.
Yesterday’s departure of two grand old men, honeyed voices of the airwaves I’ve been making a ritual point of hearing my entire adult lifetime, was even more moving than anticipated: Charles Osgood, from Sunday Morning, and Vin Scully, from the Dodgers. Two more exemplary long lives for my collection, two more ringing endorsements of Theodore Geisel’s smart optimism: “Don’t cry because it’s over, smile because it happened.” See you on the radio, Charley. And a very pleasant good evening to you, Vin. It’s been good to know you both, though of course we’ve never actually met. The connective power of broadcast speech outpaces mere proximity, and shrinks the planet in the best way.
The lives they’ve lived stand as a strong rebuke to the low estimation of humanity we find in today’s CoPhi philosophers, a pair of Power Politics proponents who expected the worst from people.
Italian Niccolo Machiavelli was all about appearances. He admired lions and foxes but seems in many ways to have been more like a chameleon, changing colors and stripes to suit situations, procure patronage, and manipulate people. Really, though, only the human animal is capable of the kind of duplicity and means-end rationalization he urged. Russell liked him more than I do, for his absence of “humbug.” If “success” in a leader means simply staying power, a talent for deception, and a mania for winning, I vote for failure.
Brit Thomas Hobbes (“Tommy,” my first PoliSci prof familiarly named him, “mainlining on utopia”) was a peripatetic who derived great energy from his daily perambulations. Frederic Gros doesn’t tell us that in his little “Energy” chapter, but Hobbes would certainly have agreed that the solid support of earth under foot makes realistic alliance with the pull of gravity. He thought we ought to build similar stability into our public institutions.
“He would go out for a long walk every morning, striding quickly up hills so as to get quickly out of breath” and to get ideas, which he preserved by extracting a quill from his walking stick. He seems to have been hail, healthy, hardy, and happy, living into his 90s (but not an optimist). Not the guy you’d expect to stump for a maximum state like his awe-inspiring mortal God “Leviathan.”

Hobbes was a “rigid determinist” but something got him up and going each morning, out into the English countryside. Did it really feel involuntary? Does it? Not to me.
He didn’t find any intrinsic  difference between religion and superstition, but thought the former might have its uses for the state. Like everything else, legislation governing what belief and conduct to allow in “utopia” is supposed to make life (not people, contrary to what a student once told me) less nasty, brutish, and short. Hobbes had nothing against vertically challenged individuals.
It’s a good day to be thinking about what qualities we desire in our leader and our nation. I’m not holding my breath for an edifying debate tonight, but as Mr. Osgood always said: “we’ll be watching.” Too bad he and Vin aren’t on the ballot. As Vin once said, we’re all “day to day.”
6 am/6:40, 67/74/51, 6:36

Hobbes “walked much and contemplated”


Machiavelli and Hobbes are on tap in CoPhi today. Students often come to them already intrigued with the former but unaware of the latter, though both their names have become adjectival terms of notoriety. Beware Machiavellian politicos and their ends-justify-the-means mentality, we all seem to have been forewarned, and beware Machiaveliian schemers generally. But while the last century spawned chilling examples of totalitarianism and its murderous toll, fewer of us have been alerted to the dangers of the Hobbesian superstate.
The explanation could have something to do with the evident sweetness of temper of “Tommy” Hobbes (as my old poli-sci prof at UMSL called him), who envisioned Leviathan but exemplified something more like the lamb in his personal conduct and bearing. Simon Critchley’s Book of Dead Philosophers offers an endearing glimpse of a true English eccentric. He “avoided excess ‘as to wine and women’ and stopped drinking at age sixty,” he “walked vigorously every day to work up a sweat… and expel any excessive moisture,” he sang “prick-songs” late at night to stimulate his lungs and lengthen his life.
My favorite thing about Hobbes remains, naturally, his peripatetic nature. He walked to work up a sweat but also to stimulate ideas, which he’d interrupt himself long enough to record by disengaging the quill from his walking stick. “He walked much and contemplated,” says Aubrey’s Life, “and he had in the head of his cane a pen and ink-horn, carried always a note-book in his pocket, and as soon as a thought darted, he presently entered it into his book, or otherwise he might perhaps have lost it.”
Another explanation of the failure of “Hobbesian” to convey the menace it might is, of course, a certain sweet-natured cartoonish tiger-cat who resisted his namesake’s “war of all against all.”
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Machiavelli, & civil disobedience

Mistrust, suspicion, refusal to really listen to others: these are symptomatic features of the world as Machiavelli (and Hobbes, coming next) knew it, a world full of testimonial injustice. Not to mention intrigue, plot, war, and violence. The more things change...

Niccolo Machiavelli praised virtu’ in a leader: manliness and valor are euphemistic translations, ruthless efficiency might be more to the point. The intended implication of "manly" is not so much machismo as hu-manity, with a twist. Machiavelli's manly prince judiciously wields and conceals the guile of the fox and the brutality of the lion, all the while brandishing an image of kindhearted wisdom. A wise prince, he said, does whatever it takes to serve the public interest as he sees it. But does he see it aright? Hard to tell, if you can’t believe a word he says. But Skinner and others think he's gotten a bad name unfairly. (See videos below.)
A new detective mystery starring Nicco has recently been published, btw, and was featured on NPR. “What would happen if two of the biggest names of the Renaissance — Niccolo Machiavelli and Leonardo da Vinci — teamed up as a crime-fighting duo?” Beats me, may have to read The Malice of FortuneOne of our groups, I think, is doing a midterm report on Superheroes & Villains. Room for one more?





I'm a bit puzzled by the sentimental fondness some seem to feel for "machiavellian" politicians. Haven't we had enough of those? Wouldn't we rather be led by Ciceronians and Senecans and Roosevelts, evincing qualities of compassion and (relative) transparency? Don't we wish them to affirm and work for the goals of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Eleanor's great post-White House achievememt?



But, Bertie Russell agrees that Machiavelli has been ill-served by invidious judgments that assimilate him to our time's conventions and accordingly find him objectionable, instead of appreciating his fitness to live and serve in his own day. Russell praises his lack of "humbug." Give the devil his due.

“I never say what I believe and I never believe what I say,” declared Machiavelli. “If I sometimes say the truth, I conceal it among lies”... more»

Hobbes


“Hobbes was fond of his dram,” sang the Pythons. But he was fonder of his stick. His walking stick. (See below.)

I was amused when my old friend said he’d just spent five weeks in Britain and came away with nothing more philosophical than a visit to a castle where Hobbes had tutored. My colleague answered rightly by noting that an ancient English castle’s more likely to stimulate the philosophical imagination than is a dusty library in Tennessee. But in any event, Hobbes is a fascinating and over-maligned figure whose steps I look forward to tracking. As I wrote for students awhile back,

Thomas Hobbes is one of my favorite “authoritarians”: a walker who kept an inkwell in his walking stick, hehobbes-walking-stick lived to 91 in the 17th century and believed humans could be saved from themselves with the right kind of contract. Contrary to a student essay I once graded, he did not say pre-social contract humans were “solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short.”

Hobbes did say that’s what it would be like to live in a “state of nature,” without civil authority or police or government to keep the peace and impose order. It would be a “war of all against all.” If you don’t agree, asks Nigel Warburton in his Little History, why do you lock your doors? 

Not, surely, because you think everyone’s out to get you. But it only takes a few miscreants, doesn’t it, to create an atmosphere of paranoia and mistrust?

I’d like to think Hobbes might reconsider the extremity of his position, were he transported to our time. On the other hand, we might reconsider the benignity of ours, were we transported to his. Those were tough times: civil war, a king executed, murderous politics, etc. How much freedom would you trade for peace and safety, if there were no other way to  secure it? How much have you? How secure do you feel? Still relevant questions in our time, and Hobbes’s answers were extreme indeed. But he was no monster, he was a peace-seeker and a civilizer. Most walkers are.

But, would life in a state of nature really be as bad as Hobbes thought? Most of us find most people less than totally distrustful, hostile, aggressive, and  vicious, most of the time. On the other hand, we’re most of us hardly “noble savages” either. Civilization and its discontent-engendering institutions account for a percentage of everyday bad behavior, but surely not all of it.
The Hobbesian threat of insecurity and fear of violent death, in our time, may be great enough for most people to override their desire for personal freedom. Is safety more important than liberty? “Better red (or whatever) than dead?” Better to have government snoops monitoring your calls, emails, etc., than… than what, exactly?
Even if you agree with Hobbes that humans left to themselves would revert to base, aggressive, instinctive behavior, you may still also hesitate to agree that the only corrective for this condition is an all-powerful and authoritative central state. You may prefer not to concede the mechanistic, material model of humans as incapable of changing, of choosing to become more kind and compassionate, less fearful and selfish. You may hold out for a species capable of rewriting its default programming.
Speculations about human nature as inherently good or bad have always slighted the individuality of persons, absorbing it in abstractions about universal nature. We should seek instead to grasp the particularity of our separate natures. Our separate plural natures.
“Common sense” gets things wrong often enough and egregiously enough – the flatness of earth, the rectitude of slavery, etc.? – to give serious pause. Uncommon sense is in shorter supply, and greater demand.
Finally today: Descartes’ dreams of reality and appearance, and ours. Mine are not usually so lucid, but others say otherwise of theirs. Is it really possible to alter the “real world” by controlling your dreams? I’m skeptical.
And can someone please explain “Inception” to me?



Tuesday, February 24, 2015

But first a word about what really matters: health. Though I complain often enough of the sorts of aches and pains common to members of my (Eisenhower-era) demographic, I'm rarely bedridden with illness. So, when I'm driven to my sickbed for an entire night and day and night, as I was between Saturday and Monday, it's a bit of a shock and (in retrospect) a welcome reminder. "Keep your health," William James wrote to his English pragmatist friend Schiller, "it's better than all the truths in the firmament." All else is bonus. I'm running on fumes and yesterday afternoon's half-bowl of chicken noodle soup so far today, but I'm up and running. That really does matter, way more to me today than Machiavelli ever did. But I'll try to fake it.

Mistrust, suspicion, refusal to really listen to others: these are symptomatic features of the world as Machiavelli (and Hobbes, coming next) knew it, a world full of testimonial injustice. Not to mention intrigue, plot, war, and violence. The more things change...


Niccolo Machiavelli praised virtu’ in a leader: manliness and valor are euphemistic translations, ruthless efficiency might be more to the point. The intended implication of "manly" is not so much machismo as hu-manity, with a twist. Machiavelli's manly prince judiciously wields and conceals the guile of the fox and the brutality of the lion, all the while brandishing an image of kindhearted wisdom. A wise prince, he said, does whatever it takes to serve the public interest as he sees it. But does he see it aright? Hard to tell, if you can’t believe a word he says. But Skinner and others think he's gotten a bad name unfairly. (See videos below.)
A new detective mystery starring Nicco has recently been published, btw, and was featured on NPR. “What would happen if two of the biggest names of the Renaissance — Niccolo Machiavelli and Leonardo da Vinci — teamed up as a crime-fighting duo?” Beats me, may have to read The Malice of Fortune. One of our groups, I think, is doing a midterm report on Superheroes & Villains. Room for one more?

I'm a bit puzzled by the sentimental fondness some seem to feel for "machiavellian" politicians. Haven't we had enough of those? Wouldn't we rather be led by Ciceronians and Senecans and Roosevelts, evincing qualities of compassion and (relative) transparency? Don't we wish them to affirm and work for the goals of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Eleanor's great post-White House achievememt?

But, Bertie Russell agrees that Machiavelli has been ill-served by invidious judgments that assimilate him to our time's conventions and accordingly find him objectionable, instead of appreciating his fitness to live and serve in his own day. Russell praises his lack of "humbug." Give the devil his due.

“I never say what I believe and I never believe what I say,” declared Machiavelli. “If I sometimes say the truth, I conceal it among lies”... more»



The political philosopher Niccolò Machiavelli wrote “The Prince” as a manual on leadership and governing during the late Italian Renaissance, ...

Five centuries after “The Prince” was written, visiting spots in and around Florence that track the arc of Machiavelli's life.


Looking for a firm modern presidential declaration of anti-Machiavellian sentiment? Jimmy Carter said: "A strong nation, like a strong person, can afford to be gentle, firm, thoughtful, and restrained. It can afford to extend a helping hand to others. It is a weak nation, like a weak person, that must behave with bluster and boasting and rashness and other signs of insecurity."

We're talking civil disobedience too, today. Again Nigel slights the Yanks, in not mentioningThoreau. “If the machine of government is of such a nature that it requires you to be the agent of injustice to another, then, I say, break the law.” And,
Unjust laws exist; shall we be content to obey them, or shall we endeavor to amend them, and obey them until we have succeeded, or shall we transgress them at once? Men generally, under such a government as this, think that they ought to wait until they have persuaded the majority to alter them. They think that, if they should resist, the remedy would be worse than the evil. But it is the fault of the government itself that the remedy is worse than the evil. It makes it worse. Why is it not more apt to anticipate and provide for reform? Why does it not cherish its wise minority? Why does it cry and resist before it is hurt? Why does it not encourage its citizens to be on the alert to point out its faults, and do better than it would have them?
So, here's my Discussion Question today: Have you ever engaged in an act of deliberate law-breaking, in order to challenge what you considered an unjust law? Are there circumstances in which you would do so? Would you risk arrest on behalf of social justice, climate change, or anything else? Will you at least support those who do? Are you a compliantist, a gradualist, or a transgressive reformer?

Russell, incidentally, himself a civil disobedient in the great tradition of Socrates, Gandhi, King, et al - ("On April 15 1961, at the age of 89, Bertrand Russell gave a speech calling for non-violent civil disobedience in his campaign for British unilateralism, i.e. to get Britain to unilaterally give up its nuclear weapons and membership in NATO") - gives Thoreau only passing attention as an American representative of the romantic movement of the 19th century.

124 comments:

  1. Marie Hussels H0112:39 AM CDT

    "Are people fundamentally selfish, in your experience? Are you? Can selfish people change?"
    I do believe that people are fundamentally selfish. I believe we start out this way as a survival instinct and continue to do this as we realize the harshness of the world. In a way I am selfish. I do care for myself and I value my own opinion the most. I do believe anyone can change even a selfish person.
    "What memorable hiking experience have you had?"
    One of my good high school friends and I used to go hiking in Barfield park a lot. She was trying to get fitter in order to have an easier time with physical fitness at the military academy she currently attends. It was good exercise and it's always nice to have someone with you. She lives in New York now and is attending West Point but I always treasure the conversations and memories we created while hiking.
    "It's been estimated that the average social media user could read 200 books in the time they spend online. What would they gain? What would they lose? What's the right balance?"
    People would gain a lot of knowledge if they started reading more but they would also lose touch with a lot of events happening in the world. The world is changing drastically and it is important to keep up to date with what is happening around us. I think the right balance is different for everyone but a person should read several classics that teach important lessons about life while also staying informed on current events.
    "Do you trust your own conscience and experience more than that of religious leaders like the Pope? Why?"
    I do because I don't really follow a religion. I do agree with the Pope's messages of loving one another but I don't always agree with the church's views when it comes to treatment of people who are considered different. I trust my own conscious because I know that I am a good person and I treat people the way I want to be treated. To me, my conscious is more trustworthy than that of the Pope or religious leaders because I know how to treat people well and I choose to treat all people with respect.

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    1. Kevin Hernandez Ovalle1:05 PM CDT

      Kevin Hernandez Ovalle HO2
      I agree with you Marie. People can be selfish even at a young age. But just like you people can no hange their ways. Of course for most of us it doesn’t happen overnight, but takes time.

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    2. I agree that some people develop the sense of selfish at an early age, such as with parents or with toys and what not. They can change but over the course of time

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    3. Anonymous12:37 PM CDT

      Section 11 Micah Chapman
      Selfishness unfortunately part of human nature and is something we must all fight to overcome.

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  2. H01
    Do you agree with Machiavelli that it's okay for a leader to lie if he perceives it to be in the best interest of his people?

    From what I've learned, even if it is in the best interest of those you care about, people would rather be told the truth and have it be something they don't want to hear than be lied to. It often comes down to a sense of respect, like they come to the conclusion that you didn't think they were good enough to hear the truth. So, based on past experiences, no I don't think this is a wise thing to do, even if you're a leader protecting thousands or even millions of people.

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    1. Section 9

      I think it's best to tell the truth whenever you can. Sometimes, speaking the truth benefits no one, and some things are better left unsaid. For example, state secrets aren't typically shared. There is a whole spectrum from a lie to an absolute truth, and everything in between.

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    2. I for one thinks it's okay to lie, sometimes people can't handle the truth and will break, which will cause more harm potentially.

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    3. I believe that it is okay to lie as well, mostly just to spare the feelings of the person being lied too, as I do not want to hurt them. But it is always good to tell the truth.

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    4. Anonymous12:40 PM CDT

      Section 11 Micah Chapman
      I personally disagree. Lying causes many problems and the more people think it is ok the less people trust in one another.

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  3. H01
    Are people fundamentally selfish, in your experience? Are you? Can selfish people change?

    I wouldn't go so far as to say they're fundamentally selfish. I think something like selfishness is a quality that you learn about from the people and experiences around you. To reference the Good Place (wonderful show), the main character was mistakenly put into heaven and the show is based around her starting as a selfish person and watching her grow into a substantially better person. So, I don't think everyone starts out as selfish; they become selfish based on what happens around you. However, I do believe that people can change, absolutely.
    I would like to say that I'm not selfish, but there are probably some things that I'm more selfish about than others. I couldn't go through and tell you what they are. It's one of those things that it has to be happening to really see what's going on. Overall though, I don't think that I'm selfish, but maybe I'm wrong.

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    1. I agree people aren't completely selfish but I believe we have some degrees of it and we do start out somewhat selfish

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    2. Abby Pittman Section 6
      I agree with your point of view. Also, the Good Place is amazing!!

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    3. Anonymous12:43 PM CDT

      Section 11 Micah Chapman
      That is similar to something I was thinking.

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  4. H01
    What memorable hiking experience have you had?

    The first time I ever really went hiking was last year with my really close group of friends. We actually don't hang out much anymore since we're all on different schedules now, but it's still one of my favorite memories. We drove an hour each way and walked about an hour each way to get to this swimming hole that we stayed at for about two hours. Just the experience of trying something new and bonding with friends in an absolutely breathtaking place definitely made my college experience, and I'll never forget about it.

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    1. Kevin Hernandez Ovalle1:02 PM CDT

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      Wow I had a similar experience Sunny. It’s amazing to do something different and getting away from all the technology and busy city life. Just admiring nature and taking in that real fresh air is something that can't be compared to.

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    2. I feel you sunny, what makes everything trip worth it is with friends. That can make the bleakest days seem bright, we are social creatures so it makes sense we love being with at least someone.

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  5. Do you agree with Machiavelli that it's okay for a leader to lie if he perceives it to be in the best interest of his people?

    I wouldn't say lie, but partial truth may be sufficient. If you lie to a group of people, chances are the most intelligent of those people will figure out the lie. You then must deal with them before the truth gets out. But if you give partial truth, it would be harder for someone else to cause a ruckus, it would be easier for the majority of the crowd to write him off and stick to what small piece of truth is now theirs. H2

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    1. I kind of agree, I can think of many cases where lying may be the better option, instead of the partial truth. People are mostly weak minded, if they receive the worst news possible they will collapse and be irrational is undounundou dangerous, if you play on lies make the lies your reality

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  6. Do you agree with Hobbes that, left to our own devices and without the authority of the state and its institutions and laws to govern us, we would create a "war of all against all"?

    100%. To believe otherwise would be nothing but wishful thinking. For example, if there were on waterhole within a radius of five square miles, every human being within that radius will have to drink from that hole. Some would kill to get their drink, others might band together and ration out the water. Either way, you will have at less one person selfish enough to kill in order to drink. That one person is enough to start an all out free-for-all. H2

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    1. Section 9

      I'm not sure. Native Americans fought, and had skirmishes, but didn't they mostly exist without formal institutions or states? Resources weren't that scarce, which could have played into it, but I don't think they were slaughtering each other for sport.

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    2. That is true, but now they had countless generations adapting with and towards society, if we are to drop all society right now, we would be regressing in technology and modernity. That combined with the stress and people lacking the knowledge to survive in the will may cause them to do drastic measures because even the most basic needs on Maslow's hiearchy is jepordized.

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    3. Also Shawn, I agree with limited resources we would resort to compete just to satiate our hierarchy of needs. Now we can resist that, but with strangers who cares if they suffer, we are in it for ourselves.

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  7. Is there a sharp difference between writing well and thinking logically? Why do you think so many scholastic/medieval philosophers were poor writers? How can you become a better writer and clearer thinker?

    Thinking can be quite erratic at times while good writings tend to be well structured. I think so many old philosophers were bad writers simply because their thoughts were too abstract to be coherently understood in writing. I guess if you wanted to became a "better" writer, you must write more. If you believe thinking is something you can become "better" at, then you also must believe in some sense that thinking is competitive. I don't believe in making competition of such things. Thinkers think. H2

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    1. I think they were bad writer because more so of the lack of utensils and materials to write with/on. They would have to write on stone slabs, and those aren't cheap at all. It was hard to become a well writer so using old philosophers as an example is an poor choice. But I do agree with erratic thinking and how we can improve that.

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    2. McKennah Campbell10:34 AM CDT

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      I definitely agree with your statement because that is something that is still shown in philosophers today just because they have so much to say that writing well was not their main priority, but they primarily wanted to get their point across.

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  8. Was Machiavelli right, about how power works in the real world?

    I believe he was. He even said himself that he focuses on how things are rather than how things could be. Power is power and those who know how to wield it are in the minority. Majority usually dislikes minority. H2

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    1. Im in agreement, majority do usually dislike the minority, and thus because of this people who know how to wield power become high in status and become the minority. Thus people dislike those in power, yet they have power because they know how to utilize it.

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  9. If European explorers like Vespucci understood that European knowledge was at best incomplete, at worst just wrong, why were so many of them still so confident that the natives they encountered in the New World were sub-human? Why in general are humans still so quick to denigrate those who are different, or who have different customs?

    It is far easier to demonize those who you disagree with than to try and understand them. Rather than take all the time to learn the intricacies of other's, why not just wipe them out? Way easier. Less time consuming. H2

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      I think it would be due to their lack of structure and institutions. European society was rigidly hierarchical, with established institutions. Native societies didn't have nearly the same in place during the first meetings with Europeans.

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    2. I đź’Ż agree, of course they would think the natives were sub human or at least obviously less developed. Because they liked the components of a structure, surely they lacked everything else as well. It is on judgement from sight and safe assumptions. It was obvious Europeans were far ahead and more likely to be confident in their own knowledge.

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  10. Is there any proper place for astrology and magic in the modern world?

    The proper place may be something similar to Esalen. There will always be that cult that believes in this. There will always be other cults who believe the exact opposite. The world is a big place. Surely there's still room for magic and astrology somewhere. H2

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    1. I think you're right on people will always believe, however even so there is really no point to it. If anything it only gives a placebo effect and seems like it does something, therefore in today's age we don't need it.

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      Section 12
      I agree with this. Although some people view it as pointless, others may see a point or purpose in this. The world is very large and diverse, so there are definitely people who would argue in it's favor.

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    3. I agree that there are people out there that will always believe in things others will not! As Mckennah says, the world is rather large and there really are those out there that will stand by their beliefs.

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  11. It's been estimated that the average social media user could read 200 books in the time they spend online. What would they gain? What would they lose? What's the right balance?

    They would gain 200 books' worth of experience! That would be a lot more helpful to that person than the time they spend bull-shitting on the web. I feel very strongly about this topic but I will refrain from going on a rant. "Niggas just need to read." H2

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    1. I agree that books are most likey ultimately better for the pursuit of knowledge, yet I disagree that you can really only gain certain things from the internet, and the internet makes everything so much accessible.

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  12. Do you trust your own conscience and experience more than that of religious leaders like the Pope? Why? 441

    Yes because they are MY experiences. Life is a very personal journey and I don't agree with someone telling someone else about the personal journey with an un-deserved sense of authority. H2

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    1. I agree with you. No one person has a better conscience than anyone else just because of a title.

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    2. I concur, you can really only trust yourself, you have ownership of your thought and therefore you can trust yourself, yet who is to say someone isn't lying, we can't read their thoughts, therefore can't we really only trust ourselves?

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  13. Does knowledge need foundations? Why or why not?

    Yes. Further knowledge of something needs to build off of knowledge one already posses. Without a base, many new connections cannot be made. Think of the atoms that make up minerals. With no atoms, there can be no minerals. H2

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      I agree with you Shawn. Just think of the things we learn everyday since our first day. Every knowledge taught to us had a foundation from where scholars and intellects based their self off.

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    2. I disagree like I have said before say if know a fly flys at 7km/hr, I don't not need to know what any of those things are, but I do know something is doing 7 of something. Or I have the knowledge that I think, yet there is no foundation for that. Yet we are able to have foundations, but we don't need them, they only serve to expaling the relationship with said knowledge to our reality.

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  14. Can you agree with Machiavelli about leadership without being a sexist or an autocrat?

    I guess so but then you would have to deal with the many contradictions and paradoxes yourself. Leaders have power. History shows that most leaders were male and the most profound leaders held the title of tyrant. H2

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    1. It is true in history that all historic leaders were male, yet they didn't all have the title of tyrant, although a decent amount of them had. I also do not think there are many paradoxes, if there is any.

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  15. Kevin Hernandez Ovalle11:54 AM CDT

    Kevin Hernandez Ovalle HO2
    Are people fundamentally selfish, in your experience? Are you? Can selfish people change?
    I think everyone is fundamentally selfish. Now the fact if were learn to control that selfishness and turn it into selflessness is a question for everyone to answer independently. Just think of it; as baby grow with age and start to play with toys (as an example) they tend to like to keep to themselves and I rarely see the occasion of a child sharing his/her toys with another baby. So you could say we are fundamentally selfish, but as we grow and mature we’re taught that is good to share with others, but how many of us actually do this. Another example is with siblings; most siblings (I am guilty of this too) don’t like to share with their brethren and its rather an insult for one to take something that belongs to their other siblings. We get mad and frustrated and ultimately lose our temper with our siblings. Now only-child children wouldn’t understand this completely, but it's actually a process to change our selfish ways. I admit I am selfish; not as much as was before when I was an immature preteen. I can now share with my siblings and not cause a science because I don’t get my way. I do believe selfish people can change, but if take selflessness to show them the way. It’s just like any other problem we face.

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  16. H02
    Are people fundamentally selfish, in your experience? Are you? Can selfish people change?
    I believe that humans are most definitely selfish at their core. The main drive for humans to do what they do is to survive and prosper in their environment.
    COMMENT: 'The man who does not read has no advantage over the man who cannot read." -Mark Twain.
    Having the option of education and not pursing it is worse than someone not having the available resources at all. If you are content with not being informed, you are wasting your priviledge.
    Is there any proper place for astrology and magic in the modern world?
    As much as it may seem to be counterproductive, having the possibility of things occurring out of pure magic often keeps hope alive, especially in younger children. While many philosophers may disagree, having whimsical ideas can definitely benefit a society.
    It's been estimated that the average social media user could read 200 books in the time they spend online. What would they gain? What would they lose? What's the right balance?
    Glorifying books to no end is not entirely productive. Just as there are valuable resources online, there are books with no intellectual value at all. No single medium is better than any other. Social media can spread the same ideas as the iconic books we often associate with intelligence. A good balance would be doing whatever you felt like assisted young in growing most as a person. Someone older who is out of touch with the youth and their perspective may benefit from being amongst social media while a 12 year old who only watches youtube videos could definitely benefit from some thought-inspiring literature.

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      I can't see any proper use for astrology or magic outside of stories, allegory, or other works of fiction. Subscribing to stuff like that is the ultimate delusion.

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    2. I can see how it can give people hope yet in reality those pseudosciences only give false hope and a placebo to detract them from true pursuit of happiness, instead they would rely on false predictions that can alter their life.

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  17. Do you agree with Machiavelli that it's okay for a leader to lie if he perceives it to be in the best interest of his people?

    The perception of a single person is a slippery slope, so, in general, I do not think that leaders should lie, even if they believe it for the best. In a society as large as the United States, too much is at risk to depend on one person's perception of what is best.

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  18. Do you agree with Hobbes that, left to our own devices and without the authority of the state and its institutions and laws to govern us, we would create a "war of all against all"?

    I do not think that humankind would find itself in a "war of all against all" if society were to collapse. A war of this sort would benefit absolutely no one, and in this state humans would generally seek whatever is best for themselves individually, with a margin of sacrifice so long as they aren't losing too much to others. I find that society would simply rebuild itself; we didn't get this far because we all want to destroy each other.

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  19. Do you agree with Machiavelli that it's okay for a leader to lie if he perceives it to be in the best interest of his people?
    -No. No lies that would sway participation are fair.

    Do you agree with Hobbes that, left to our own devices and without the authority of the state and its institutions and laws to govern us, we would create a "war of all against all"?
    -Yes. While I don't wholly believe the government is justified in all it does, people need a foundation and guidelines.

    Is there a sharp difference between writing well and thinking logically? Why do you think so many scholastic/medieval philosophers were poor writers? How can you become a better writer and clearer thinker?
    They can happen together, but from my experience, some of the brightest people have horrible handwriting and organization skills.

    Was Machiavelli right, about how power works in the real world?
    - I believe so. I agree ith the system and how power is portrayed and moved.

    If European explorers like Vespucci understood that European knowledge was at best incomplete, at worst just wrong, why were so many of them still so confident that the natives they encountered in the New World were sub-human? Why in general are humans still so quick to denigrate those who are different, or who have different customs?
    - To answer simply, humans fear change or what is unknown.

    Is there any proper place for astrology and magic in the modern world?
    -Sure, but not to be considered fact.

    COMMENT: 'The man who does not read has no advantage over the man who cannot read." -Mark Twain.
    -This is very true. the ability todo an action is nothing until you do it.

    It's been estimated that the average social media user could read 200 books in the time they spend online. What would they gain? What would they lose? What's the right balance?
    - Depending on the book much could be gained, but you could lose touch with what is current and socially.

    Do you trust your own conscience and experience more than that of religious leaders like the Pope? Why?
    -Absolutely. The only thing I know for sure is what is in front of me and what I have experienced.

    Does knowledge need foundations? Why or why not?
    - I feel that knowledge is not fact and therefore doesn't require

    Can you agree with Machiavelli about leadership without being a sexist or an autocrat?
    -No, as his opinion does not show equality.

    Are people fundamentally selfish, in your experience? Are you? Can selfish people change?
    Yes. Yes. People can change actions but not so much their thoughts.

    What memorable hiking experience have you had? Tell us about it!
    Hiking up the oracle of Delphi and sitting where the oracle sat.

    Our JW author emphasizes the importance of beginning any great effort under the right circumstances. Do you have a similar opinion? What do you make sure to do before you begin a signficant task?
    - for best results I think everyone should have the right foundation.



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      While power might work to a certain degree like Machiavelli claimed, I think it would be tough to usurp power in a democracy such as ours using his methods. There're so many checks and balances, media coverage, and a educated electorate. I don't think a tyrant would be able to last long.

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  20. Alternate DQ's
    - What power over others do you have in your life?
    - How has your perception of power changed as you age?
    - What is power to you?
    - Is knowledge fact based?
    - Is knowledge subject to change from person to person?
    - Do you believe in the supernatural such as astrology Why or why not?
    - If religion is a way to live your life and what you believe, why are people in the same religion so different in actions and thoughts?

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  21. Sky Strube H01 - Make up report
    Do you agree with Machiavelli that it's okay for a leader to lie if he perceives it to be in the best interest of his people?

    I do agree with Machiavelli that it’s ok for a leader to lie if he believes it’s in the best interest of his people. If you had asked me this question a week ago, you would have received a hesitant maybe in response, but I recently was turned onto a new show (new to me, not to the world), Designated Survivor. During the President’s State of the Union address, one cabinet member is chosen to sit out and, in the event of a catastrophic event, become the President of the United States. The Designated Survivor the night of the Capital Bombing is Tom Kirkman, H.U.D. Secretary. The entire government is assassinated in one night, and Kirkman has to swear in as the President and start rebuilding the government immediately. The Capital Bombing is the biggest terrorist event and tragedy since 9/11 and with an event so important, the American people obviously have questions. Kirkman, along with the FBI, has to piece together what really happened, why it happened, and who did it. They have to decide which actions to take, who to investigate, and especially what to tell the American people. The press is not out to make Tom Kirkman seem like an angel. Although he is a good, honest man, many feel like he is an illegitimate President (seeing as he received the position by surviving) and are not afraid to place him under scrutiny. It is revealed that there is one other survivor from the Capitol Bombing, Peter MacLeish. MacLeish is under investigation by the FBI and it is revealed that he was involved later. While the investigation is underway, word gets out that Peter MacLeish, the Vice President of the United States is under investigation. Obviously this is very important to the American people, but Kirkman can’t confirm or deny anything because it’s a matter of national security. The first to take the blame for the Capital Bombing is a terrorist group call al-Sakar, it’s leader being Majid Nasar. Nasar is captured by a Navy Seal team and brought back to a United States prison. After he is questioned, Nasar is found dead in his cell. Again, word gets out of this. Kirkman faces allegations of torture and he cannot confess what happened to Nasar because, again, it is a matter of national security. There are many instances where Kirkman has to hide the truth from the press and the American people, but every time he does so with counsel from his advisors and following his conscience. He wants to keep the American people safe and only give out true and full information. I believe that this is perfectly plausible in the real world as well. As a citizen, of course, I probably wouldn’t like to find out that I had been lied to, but I think I would appreciate an effort to keep worry out of the lives of the helpless citizens involved. This is for strong scenarios, of course, but this is where I stand theoretically.

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    It's been estimated that the average social media user could read 200 books in the time they spend online. What would they gain? What would they lose? What's the right balance?

    I think social media exists to compare yourself against your peers. The effects of which have shown to be depressing. It's like a worldwide compare yourself to the Joneses. I advocate for books. There are ideas to digest and learn. Social media just shows the best side of everyone's life. Not the boring, routine, or difficult portions.

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    Alternate DQ

    Do you think western democracies could give rise to another Machiavellian tyrant such as Stalin or Hitler?

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  24. Olivia Edgar
    006- This is my post from when I missed class

    Are supernatural stories of faith, redemption, and salvation more comforting to you than the power of reason and evidence?
    I am a Christian so I do believe in faith, redemption and salvation, but I wouldn’t say that it is comforting. The story in the Bible is a story of brokeness and sinful evil people. The Bible is convicting and hard to obey sometimes it even states in 2 Corinthians 2:16 “To those who are perishing, we are a dreadful smell of death and doom. But to those who are being saved, we are a life-giving perfume.” The Christian walk is not always easy and comforting.
    I would also argue that these “stories” go hand and hand with reason and evidence. Take a look at the Earth we live on for example and how it was formed. Most people who do not believe in the creation story told in The Bible believe in the big bang which started us all off. There was nothing and then suddenly there was something it was light and dark and a void of nothingness but things ready to be shaped. This follows the creation story on the first day, “In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was without form and void and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters. And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light.” Genesis 1: 1-3. Next in the “scientific” version of creation came water animals which for them to exist obviously there needs to be water and an atmosphere which comes on the second day of the creation story (Gen 1:6-10). The third day God created the Sun moon and stars which in the scientific world would be the Big Bang continuing to expand and grow into a universe.
    Next we will get into the creation of Animals. According to geologic time scales the oldest fossils are land plants and aquatic animals. This goes right along with the creation story on the third day he created land vegetation and the fifth day he created aquatic animals. The fourth day was the sun moon and stars which you can justify by saying the big bang was still expanding, as it is now, and growing into a universe (Genesis 1: 11-23). They are following the same order showing me they likely go hand in hand. The person who created the geologic timescale was not following the creation story and fudging the numbers to make it fit, they just happen to. Lastly on the geologic and creation time scales is the creation of mammals and Humans. Humans were last last thing formed most scientists will agree on and they were also last in the creation story (Genesis 1:24-26). As a scientist if you don’t believe the parts about a spirit hovering over the waters you can at least acknowledge these stories are very similar.
    A few other ways that reason and evidence have strengthened my faith instead of weakening it is the big bang had to come from somewhere. What started it? Scientists are still perplexed by this and can’t explain what triggered it and why it happened. I have a proposition for you it could be a superior being who has control of everything. If the Earth was any closer to the sun or any farther it would not be able to sustain life. How can there be a random explosion from nothing that sent a rock to the exact right spot with the perfect tilt and substances to create a atmosphere that was hit by another random rock and bacteria was formed and everything we have is from that one bacteria. Our bodies and how complex they are and how we are the only ones who can think and process and feel while other animals are still stuck thinking about there here and now needs. So I have a retaliating question How can you have reason and evidence with no faith in a higher power?

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  25. Do you agree with Machiavelli that it's okay for a leader to lie if he perceives it to be in the best interest of his people?

    Yes, the people may not like it, and maybe in views of evil and good, that is something more along the lines of evil. However, he has the better interest in his people, as a leader should. If he has the best interest, why fear for his deception? And if you do fear his deception, do you not believe him as a leader? Therefore, if you don't believe in him, why have him as such and keep him as one? A leader will and should have the people best interests in mind, thus yes it may seem wrong, but he does it for the longevity and protection of his people, even if his people betray and despise him for he knows the greater good and is willing to sacrifice reputation and his worth.

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  26. Do you agree with Hobbes that, left to our own devices and without the authority of the state and its institutions and laws to govern us, we would create a "war of all against all"?

    Yes, society is the accumulation of a group of people bound by rules for betterment and order. And without a society people are left to do whatever they please. They are vulnerable to their deadly desires, and therefore because of that, people will be savage and tainted by letting their desires attain what they want regardless of the consequences.

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  27. Is there a sharp difference between writing well and thinking logically? Why do you think so many scholastic/medieval philosophers were poor writers? How can you become a better writer and clearer thinker?

    Yes, if you write well you can effectively communicate how you feel, even if what you are communicating is garbage, at least you do it effectively, yet when you think logically you are able to define, explain, and are able to replicate what you think over and over again, but also you are able to prove it, regardless you may not be able to effectively convince others of this, however you have it solidly in your mind.

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  28. Was Machiavelli right, about how power works in the real world?

    Yes, even if our leaders seem transparent, let be real there things the public is better not knowing and because important officials keep it from us, we can maintain order and a good conscious mind. They are doing it because it will only cause panic and guilt if we knew the wrong things about our country. More so if we had powerful would be secrets, enemies could easily attain the details of the "secret" and use it against us. Therefore, i stand strong in saying although people don't like hearing it, most successful leaders will keep stuff from us and deceive us, yet in a path towards betterment.

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  29. If European explorers like Vespucci understood that European knowledge was at best incomplete, at worst just wrong, why were so many of them still so confident that the natives they encountered in the New World were sub-human? Why in general are humans still so quick to denigrate those who are different, or who have different customs?

    It is because people want to believe they are right. And when they believe they are utterly right, everyone is utterly wrong, especially when those civilizations have lesser advanced society, technology, etc. It is easy to say they are savage and unlearned. Therefore, through that thinking you can easily tunnel you perspective and understanding of the world, and why they could view them as sub-human. We are quick to judge people because that is human nature, we may not like to admit it, but we judge on all of our senses, that is why humans are so quick to paint people in a certain light.

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  30. Is there any proper place for astrology and magic in the modern world?

    No, we have no evidence of magic or how the stars and constellations affect us. We as a modern society rely on concrete facts, and baseless speculations and superstitions. If they had evidence of working and it was able to replicate itself for everyone to see, then it would have a place. Albeit, if it does "work" the effects are merely placebo or conditions so broad and general it can work with anyone.

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  31. COMMENT: 'The man who does not read has no advantage over the man who cannot read." -Mark Twain.

    It is true, people unable to read and people who chooses not to utilize his reading capability are still equally unable to read. They do not feed their mind or knowledge. Like how if someone refuses to use his hand and someone who has no hands, they are both in the same boat, because they can't utilize their hands. Therefore, being unable and choosing not to are pretty much the same in regards to outcome

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  32. It's been estimated that the average social media user could read 200 books in the time they spend online. What would they gain? What would they lose? What's the right balance?

    By spending that much time online, they gained an enhanced view and understanding of the virtual societal structure of humans, I believe most people act differently on the internet, and by using all the time on social media you are subconsciously picking up on cues that can appear in any form of medium that is able to reflect our personality. However what they lose is boundless knowledge, education, and critical thinking when reading books instead. Something about books makes it unique and you can't ever replicate that on the internet. Therefore, to not be a hermit, it would be best to visit the internet and social media, so that you are able to be current on world events and gain online skills, and you should also read some books as well so you aren't a complete rock as well. It is best to dip into both activities to be smart and modern.

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  33. Do you trust your own conscience and experience more than that of religious leaders like the Pope? Why? 441

    Yes, ultimately we both grew up in different livelihoods and upbringings, and my mind is unique and only I can really read my mind. Someone can lie to me and lead me astray, thus I'm not able to lead myself astray. However, that does not mean I do not take others perspectives and opinions, but I definitely trust my own mind more than others. I just take others into consideration, and use part of that along with my mind to make informed decision based on facts and principles.

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  34. Does knowledge need foundations? Why or why not?


    No, you can start your knowledge anywhere, like for example i can just know that a housefly can fly at a rate of 7km/hr, that is knowledge without foundation. I don't need any info or even what a fly, km, or hr is. However, foundations do serve to increase our grand scope of things. IF anything foundations help us understand the big picture, like for example, knowing what the hell a fly is, what is a km, or what is a hr. They only help us understand our reality and the knowledge's relation to it.

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  35. Can you agree with Machiavelli about leadership without being a sexist or an autocrat?

    Yes, i believe him and I'm neither of those things. IF you rule by fear and lies, you don't necessarily have to make your subjects live in fear everyday. Only enough to make them fearful not to back-stab you but at the same time fearful enough to not desert you. And it really depends on how you views things if its sexist, say a emperor doesn't employ female soldiers because they are well, females...Well that sexists right? And again what if its because females cant fight well and are less strong? There is a strategic reason for it. Therefore most will see it as not as sexist before. Also what if the enemy faction likes capturing those countries females and doing heinous acts to them? The emperor wants to protect his countries ladies, so his country doesn't die out, and they don't have to suffer. You can be a leader like he said without being anything, It all depends the true actions of a king and the view points of his vassals.

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  36. Are people fundamentally selfish, in your experience? Are you? Can selfish people change?

    Yes, I people are selfish and I am as well. It really depends how selfish people are. People should and always are at least a little selfish, and people can change how selfish thy are, by thinking of there more often and being selfless towards others

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  37. What memorable hiking experience have you had? Tell us about it!

    I was hiking a long a steep dreadful path to a water fall location. I was wet, tired, and cold. I was hiking a long my friends when I began to regret my decision to come a long. Just until then I began to hear the water plummeting onto the various stones. As it came into view the water seemed like the fountain of youth as it's envigorating water flowed into me. My fatigue seemingly a distant memory. The bleak hike now seemed like a pleasant trip all in an instance, with the wondrous majestic sight of the waterfall etched alongside the memory.

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  38. Our JW author emphasizes the importance of beginning any great effort under the right circumstances. Do you have a similar opinion? What do you make sure to do before you begin a signficant task?

    Yes in order to even accomplish a task worth such great effort, you need to prepare and develope the right circumstances to take on the challenge. Without preparation you increase your chances of failing and causing negative emotions more likely. However by preparing, you can tackle the problem with more diligence and confidence, which in turn will make the stressful deed all the more easy to even take on. That's exactly what I do before an enormous task, I plan and brainstorm, then I prepare the needed items, and I began to work it out following my plan and notes, thus making the process smoother and satisfying.

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  39. Do you agree with Machiavelli that it's okay for a leader to lie if he perceives it to be in the best interest of his people?
    No, people should be told the truth. That is what is best for the most people.

    Do you agree with Hobbes that, left to our own devices and without the authority of the state and its institutions and laws to govern us, we would create a "war of all against all"?
    I don’t thunk there would be any difference between people and people who make governments. Punishment from government seems to be a decent deterrent, but overall with anarchy, we would not fall into depravity.

    Is there a sharp difference between writing well and thinking logically? Why do you think so many scholastic/medieval philosophers were poor writers? How can you become a better writer and clearer thinker?
    If you think we’ll, you should be able to express it well, so no there is no difference.

    If European explorers like Vespucci understood that European knowledge was at best incomplete, at worst just wrong, why were so many of them still so confident that the natives they encountered in the New World were sub-human? Why in general are humans still so quick to denigrate those who are different, or who have different customs?
    It seems that people are confident that they are right and seeing difference makes people question that confidence and become uncomfortable, which leads them to act in terrible ways.

    Is there any proper place for astrology or magic in the modern world?
    Yes, absolutely, as much as any religion should have space. People should be free to believe what they want as long as it harms no one.

    COMMENT: 'The man who does not read has no advantage over the man who cannot read." -Mark Twain.
    It seems that the man who does not read is at a greater disadvantage being that he has learned how to educate himself and still does not while the man who cannot read may desire to learn but cannot learn everything.

    It's been estimated that the average social media user could read 200 books in the time they spend online. What would they gain? What would they lose? What's the right balance?
    Social media can hopefully be social, but so can actually engaging in society. For the most part the loss would be immediate news coverage and gain would be less social worry and more knowledge.

    Do you trust your own conscience and experience more than that of religious leaders like the Pope? Why?
    Yes, because it is experience I know to be true whereas I cannot guarantee accuracy to anyone else.

    Does knowledge need foundations? Why or why not?
    Yes, knowledge needs basis in experience or facts that can be proven.

    Are people fundamentally selfish, in your experience? Are you? Can selfish people change?
    People are definitely naturally selfish. I can see selfish nature in myself which I work against. I do believe that people can change.

    What memorable hiking experience have you had? Tell us about it!
    My first backpacking experience was fabulous, not for any particular reason, just because it was so beautiful. I hope to go again.

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  40. Alternative quiz questions:
    1) According to the author, “In 1962 people started referring to” what?
    A: hippies

    2) Who is the professor who handed out psilocybin and LSD to his students during the 60s?
    A: Timothy Leary

    3) What was Ken Kesey’a bestselling novel about a mental institution?
    A: “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest”

    4) What New Age leader had been a science fiction writer before “claiming her fictions were real?”
    A: Jane Roberts

    5) What large and influential music festival happened in 1969?
    A: Woodstock

    6) What is Tom Wolfe’s book about Kesey and the Merry Pranksters?
    A: “The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test”

    7) What year did the author state that “the Sixties got going?”
    A: 1962

    8) Who coined the word counterculture?
    A: Theodore Roszak

    9) What was the name of Ken Kesey’s group of friends?
    A: the Merry Pranksters

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  41. Abby Pittman section 6

    “What memorable hiking experience have you had?”

    When I was 12 years old, I went on an overnight hiking trip on Mount LeConte. I still remember the struggle to breathe as we changed altitude. The small lodges we stayed in and how cold it was in the morning even though it was the middle of summer. How green the trees were. The sounds. I loved every minute of the trip. It was amazing to have a disconnect from technology and to just be able to spend time with my family. We all spent a lot of time reflecting and enjoying the experience together.

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  42. Abby Pittman section 6

    "Do you agree with Machiavelli that it's okay for a leader to lie if he perceives it to be in the best interest of his people?"

    I don’t think a leader should lie to protect the general public. I think the people have a right to be informed on current events. Most would much rather be aware of issues right away than being lied to and discovering later. It shows respect to others when they are clearly informed.

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    500 word blogpost for being absent
    Among the most widely-read of the Renaissance thinkers was Niccolò Machiavelli, a Florentine politician who retired from public service to write at length on the skill required for successfully running the state. Impatient with abstract reflections on the way things "ought" to be, Machiavelli focussed on the way things are, illustrating his own intensely practical convictions with frequent examples from the historical record. Although he shared with other humanists a profound pessimism about human nature, Machiavelli nevertheless argued that the social benefits of stability and security can be achieved even in the face of moral corruption. In 1513 Machiavelli wrote his best-known work, Il Principe. Dedicated to Lorenzo de' Medici, this little book offers practical advice on how to rule a city like sixteenth-century Florence. Its over-all theme is that the successful prince must exhibit virtù [variously translated as "strength," "skill," or "prowess"] in both favorable and adverse circumstances. This crucial quality of leadership is not the same as the virtuous character described by ethical philosophers, since Machiavelli held that public success and private morality are entirely separate. The question is not what makes a good human being, but what makes a good prince. Since all governments are either republics or principalities, Machiavelli noted, their people will be accustomed either to managing their own affairs or to accepting the leadership of a prince. (For that reason, the safest princes are those who inherit their rule over people used to the family.) A prudent leader, however, will be able to anticipate problems long before they actually arise, using virtù to forestall what would otherwise be great difficulties. Whatever vitality a former republic may have, then, Machiavelli counselled that it either be destroyed or ruled carefully by a resident prince.
    The 17th Century English philosopher Thomas Hobbes is now widely regarded as one of a handful of truly great political philosophers, whose masterwork Leviathan rivals in significance the political writings of Plato, Aristotle, Locke, Rousseau, Kant, and Rawls. Hobbes is famous for his early and elaborate development of what has come to be known as “social contract theory”, the method of justifying political principles or arrangements by appeal to the agreement that would be made among suitably situated rational, free, and equal persons. He is infamous for having used the social contract method to arrive at the astonishing conclusion that we ought to submit to the authority of an absolute—undivided and unlimited—sovereign power. While his methodological innovation had a profound constructive impact on subsequent work in political philosophy, his substantive conclusions have served mostly as a foil for the development of more palatable philosophical positions. Hobbes’s moral philosophy has been less influential than his political philosophy, in part because that theory is too ambiguous to have garnered any general consensus as to its content. Most scholars have taken Hobbes to have affirmed some sort of personal relativism or subjectivism; but views that Hobbes espoused divine command theory, virtue ethics, rule egoism, or a form of projectivism also find support in Hobbes’s texts and among scholars. Because Hobbes held that “the true doctrine of the Lawes of Nature is the true Morall philosophie”, differences in interpretation of Hobbes’s moral philosophy can be traced to differing understandings of the status and operation of Hobbes’s “laws of nature."

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  44. McKennah Campbell10:38 AM CDT

    Section 12
    COMMENT: 'The man who does not read has no advantage over the man who cannot read." -Mark Twain.
    I really enjoy this quote because its kind of like the Michael Jordan quote about how you miss 100% of the shots you don't take. It shows that there is no difference in those who don't put the effort and the people who don't know how; like ignorance is equal to lazy.

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  45. Madona Kozman2:34 PM CDT

    Section 13
    Do you agree with Machiavelli that it's okay for a leader to lie if he perceives it to be in the best interest of his people?
    I agree with Machiavelli that it is okay for a leader to lie to his people if he thinks that telling the truth would ruin people's ability to keep going with life.

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  46. Madona Kozman2:38 PM CDT

    Section 13
    Do you agree with Machiavelli that it's okay for a leader to lie if he perceives it to be in the best interest of his people?
    I believe that a world without laws and rules would turn into a wilderness where humans would turn into animals.

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  47. Madona Kozman2:45 PM CDT

    Section 13
    COMMENT: 'The man who does not read has no advantage over the man who cannot read." -Mark Twain.
    I believe that this is true. There are many people who cannot read but has wisdom and knowledge from life experiences. And most of them can deal with life situations more than many people who can read.

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  48. Section 13

    DQ: Was Machiavelli right, about how power works in the real world?

    Yes, he was right, but that doesn’t mean it’s the only way to be successful. Ruling through fear is quicker & more efficient, but is it worth it? Can you ever trust anyone? Power through kindness and cooperation is harder to achieve because it takes more time to establish and it also takes strong wills, trust, and humility; traits that are not easily fostered in our society currently.

    DQ: What memorable hiking experience have you had? Tell us about it!

    I was in the Colorado Rockies, Chicago Basin in July during mountain goat babies season. I had been left my hiking group because they wanted to go explore a cave and old mine shaft, I did not. Bats, snakes, bears... no thanks. I was alone and cranky about it, walking very fast back to the campsite, until I stopped and took in where I was. I was surrounded by beautiful mountains, trees, waterfalls, wildflowers, and baby goats. I couldn’t hear cars, planes, or AC units, and work couldn’t reach me. I was in an exceptional place many people never get to experience and I was wasting it by being cranky with my head down. I started walking a lot slower with my head up the rest of the way.

    DQ: Do you agree with Hobbes that, left to our own devices and without the authority of the state and its institutions and laws to govern us, we would create a "war of all against all"?

    Yes and no. I don’t believe human need to be forced to behave by an overlord. However, humanity forms structures naturally to ensure survival; sometimes its communal, other times it hierarchical. Whatever it is, it has a consensus among the majority of its members.

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  49. Section 13

    Do you agree with Machiavelli that its okay for a leader to lie if he perceives it to be in the best interest of his people?
    - I think it would need to depend on the situation that said leader would be lying about AND the leader would need to get a second opinion before making the final decision to lie on their own.

    Do you trust your own conscience and experience more than that of religious leaders like the Pope? Why or why not?
    - Again, I think it would depend on the situation. No matter who it is, if i have experienced something that someone else hasn't, I'm probably not going to take advice from them about that topic.

    Are people fundamentally selfish, in your experience? Are you? Can selfish people change?
    - I think everyone naturally wants whats best for themselves over others, no matter how much we wouldn't want to admit it. But with that being said, I think as we grow we learn how to be selfless rather than selfish.

    What memorable hiking experience have you had?
    - I once hiked down to Cummins Falls, while we were there a boy that was trying to cliff jump slipped and fell on his way to the top and totally smacked his skull on straight rock in result of the 15 foot fall. He was obviously knocked out and began to slip into the water but luckily people got him out and he eventually received medical attention. We left after that, lol.

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  50. Ruj Haan11:46 AM CDT

    Section 13

    -Does knowledge need foundations? Why or why not?
    Yes, all knowledge need to have a foundation that can be built on previous knowledge.

    -Are people fundamentally selfish, in your experience? Are you? Can selfish people change?
    Yes we are all selfish in some ways, but like many other things in life there is a limit. Sometimes being selfish is good, for instance you need to be a little selfish when it comes to your personal life, always put yourself first. There are definitely times that being selfish can be hurtful and unhealthy. I think if people really want to better themselves there is always room for improvement and change.

    -What memorable hiking experience have you had? Tell us about it!
    One of my memorable hikes would be the Half Dome at Yosemite in July. It took use 9 hours to go all the way up and back. Although the hike was a little hard but the view was extremely worth it.

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  51. Anonymous11:56 AM CDT

    Do you agree with Machiavelli that it's okay for a leader to lie if he perceives it to be in the best interest of his people?
    -Yes, sometimes telling someone a small lie to protect them from a hurtful situation can be the best way of handling that situation. Then again who can really decided what is in the best interest for someone than the person itself.
    Do you agree with Hobbes that, left to our own devices and without the authority of the state and its institutions and laws to govern us, we would create a "war of all against all"?
    - I most definitely agree,everyone in society has different ways of thinking. Racial issues, social issues, economical issues, difference in beliefs and so on cause people to be at war; in my view we have always been at war with each other which means if we were to have that kind of "freedom" things would be expressed differently between each other and it would not be in a calm way.

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  52. Section 12:

    DQ: It’s been estimated that the average social media user could read 200 books in the time they spend online. What would they gain? What would they lose? What's the right balance?

    That is shocking. I think if people spent time reading 200 books they would certainly gain more knowledge in the subjects they are reading about. I also think reading more enriches the soul. However, I don’t think someone should simply swap all their time on social media to books alone. I think that they would gain using much of that time reading, but also a significant portion actually socializing and experiencing life in person. I have limited my time on social media with this very idea in mind. Too much time can be spent in front of a screen.

    DQ: Our JW author emphasizes the importance of beginning any great effort under the right circumstances. Do you have a similar opinion? What do you make sure to do before you begin a signficant task?

    I agree. Taking on a significant task should be under the right circumstances, because otherwise failure would be too likely. Whenever I am taking on a significant task, or goal, I like to plan ahead and prepare myself for it before I actually start working on it because I want to succeed. For example, one of my goals is to move to another state after I graduate. To do so, I am looking ahead at the job markets in different cities I am looking into, the cost of moving, neighborhoods I’d like to live in, etc. I am also going to wait until I have graduated because that would be the most ideal time for me (circumstances). Waiting until then will allow me to focus my attention on work so that I can support myself. I want to move as soon as possible after graduation too because I will be in a circumstance where I am not financially tied down to the area I am in now (rent, career job, etc). In short, planning is important!

    DQ: Is there any proper place for astrology and magic in the modern world?

    As a creative type, I believe that, yes, there is a place for magic in our world…but not literally. I think that art, imagination, fiction tales, etc., keep the children in us alive. It makes the world a bit more interesting and exciting. However, I think it is best that these things are viewed as fiction rather than reality. We need to be able to ground ourselves in scientific findings, but also be able to stretch our minds and appreciate our creative imaginations as well. Thats what being human is in many ways, at least to me.

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    1. Riley Fox1:13 PM CDT

      I like to believe that "magic" has a place in the world. We have re created various forms of "magic" that was portrayed in movies via technology. For example wireless phones, from star trek, 3D modeling via augmented reality from Iron Man.

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  53. Stephen Byers12:14 PM CDT

    Stephen Byers Section 13
    It's been estimated that the average social media user could read 200 books in the time they spend online. What would they gain? What would they lose? What's the right balance?
    They would gain much wisdom and respect for the beauty of the world. They would lose certain connections with old friends, and not be as knowledgable on modern news. The right balance would be only a little bit of social media every day, just to catch up a little bit, and using some free time that you would normally look at social media, read for a little while.

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  54. Stephen Byers12:19 PM CDT

    Stephen Byers Section 13
    What memorable hiking experience have you had? Tell us about it!
    When I was about 9 years old, I was backpacking with my Mom and my older brother, and i was carrying 1/3 of my weight in my backpack. I was mimicking swinging on a vine out to the side while we were on a trail on the side of the mountain, and I fell of the trail due to the weight on my back. I rolled down 30-40 feet, through a bunch of thorns, so my arm was severely scratched. It was a funny story, though.

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  55. 12
    Is there any proper place for astrology and magic in the modern world?
    As an artist I believe the proper place for both of these ideas is in my realm. that of art. Astrology and magic do not offer much value to science or politics but that doesn't take away from the philosophical and artistic value these concepts have intrinsically.

    Do you trust your own conscience and experience more than that of religious leaders like the Pope? Why?
    Yes. I believe that religion offer's its leaders incentives to not spread wisdom in the most effective manners. Generally speaking I am always open to experiencing the wisdom of others but I am wary of the church.

    Does knowledge need foundations? Why or why not?
    Absolutely. All knowledge is based on some other foundational information. Without a foundation we lack context for our knowledge and it becomes useless trivia.

    Are people fundamentally selfish, in your experience? Are you? Can selfish people change?
    People are fundamentally selfish because we all have an innate desire to better our own lives and to avoid challenges and emotional difficulties. This isn't a bad thing. However, if someone were to be so selfish they value that innate desire over the lives of others that is when selfishness can cause problems.

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  56. Stephen Byers12:25 PM CDT

    Stephen Byers Section 13
    Do you agree with Machiavelli that it's okay for a leader to lie if he perceives it to be in the best interest of his people?
    I believe that there is a right time to lie, but it should not be often. A leader should lie if it could not come back to be a disaster in the end. If the lie gives people hope and something to live for, it is valid and acceptable. Being 100% honest all the time doesn't make the most likable person.

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  57. Daniel Dupuy section 12
    Do you trust your own conscience and experience more than that of religious leaders like the Pope? Why?
    I trust my own experience mire than religious leaders because just because people are leaders it doesn't mean they're right- they are humans and they can be wrong themselves and do wrong things. If i make an incorrect decision i'd rather know it was my own fault instead of being wrong because "the Pope said to do so".

    Are people fundamentally selfish, in your experience? Are you? Can selfish people change?
    I am going to answer this according to Maslow's Pyramid; People are selfish, even more when they need to meet one of the primary bases in this pyramid. A human being unconsciously worries about their own survival first and then they worry about other things.

    https://www.simplypsychology.org/maslow.html

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  58. 13
    Do you agree with Machiavelli that it's okay for a leader to lie if he perceives it to be in the best interest of his people?

    I guess the right answer here would be no, especially in this climate.. But, I can't help but think that there are necessary evils that a leader must do to stay on top. If we really get down to it, I guess I feel that sometimes bad things need to happen for good reasons and a lot of citizens would not accept that, so lie away.

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    1. Riley Fox1:09 PM CDT

      Would you lie to motivate a group of people to work towards a separate goal? It is not necessarily bad/evil (subjective on view point) but the results of these actions.

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  59. Are people fundamentally selfish, in your experience? Are you? Can selfish people change?

    I think selfish people can change. I believe people can change, selfishness is a hard trait to correct within oneself.

    What memorable hiking experience have you had? Tell us about it!
    Every June in high school, I attended a church camp in Montreat, North Carolina, and it was tradition in the group I went with that we hiked this mountain at 4am once a year. It was terrible. I am not a morning person and it was cold as well. I didn't think the view was all that worth it.

    Does knowledge need foundations? Why or why not?
    I believe knowledge needs foundations. It must come from somewhere and that is how we build our knowledge.

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  60. 13
    Was Machiavelli right, about how power works in the real world?

    I believe that he may have been right in his own time. I feel like the idea of power has shifted slightly over the past few hundred years.

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  61. 13
    What memorable hiking experience have you had? Tell us about it!

    For my 18th birthday my brother and I took a two week long camping trip in Rocky Mountain National Park. We summitted 3 mountains, Deer Mountain, Estes Cone, and the Twin Sisters.. Nothing will ever be as cool as that.

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  62. Brandon Beech12:57 PM CDT

    DQ: Do you agree with Machiavelli that it's okay for a leader to lie if he perceives it to be in the best interest of his people?

    I take a two-pronged approach to this question. I believe much good has been done in the past from situations where leaders have lied in order to keep people from overreacting or even to protect himself from unnecessary wrongful persecution. However, this type of thinking can be a slippery slope in the hands of irresponsible leaders for more reasons than can be described.

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  63. Brandon Beech12:59 PM CDT

    DQ: Do you agree with Hobbes that, left to our own devices and without the authority of the state and its institutions and laws to govern us, we would create a "war of all against all"?

    I think this is an accurate assessment of the nature of the human race with its many vices and ignorance. It's overall hard to tell, but left without laws to govern us, I believe a "war of all against all" is hardly an exaggeration of the hell we might face.

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    1. I agree. I dont think its even possible to live in a world without laws. We would just create them to our own wants.

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  64. Riley Fox1:04 PM CDT

    Section 12

    "emphasizes the importance of beginning any great effort under the right circumstances." DQ

    I believe there are no "right" circumstances. Nothing will truly be optimal to start anything. So why not just start today at a very minimal level, and the better circumstances will arise.

    "Is there a sharp difference between writing well and thinking logically?"

    I believe, like anything, it is a skill that just needs to be developed over many hours of practice. These are two different hemispheres of the brain that are at use in these two different tasks. Usually individuals just train their "natural innate abilities" rather than their "weaknesses"

    "Are people fundamentally selfish"

    Richard Dawkins wrote The Selfish Gene in which he expands on the idea that we biological creatures are just our gene's way of keeping themselves going. All the behavior we see is just genes being "selfish." Whether a choice is selfish or altruistic, it's all about what's best for the gene pool's survival. It's just that in humans we can come up with rules that drive us to make choices that don't make sense for the genes.



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  65. Brandon Beech1:06 PM CDT

    COMMENT: 'The man who does not read has no advantage over the man who cannot read." -Mark Twain.

    I really like this Mark Twain quote. I think this hits right at the heart of what many of us do not understand about the value of reading and knowledge today. At first, many people may say "I just am not good at reading," but forget that this reigns true for all things. If you believe you are not good at reading or writing it is essentially because you have never written or read before (in an exaggerate yet explicable sense). This means you have not yet put in the hours and hours of hard work and diligence in order to learn these skills and develop a passion for something so important to our existence as humans.

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  66. Are people fundamentally selfish, in your experience? Are you? Can selfish people change?
    I think it's within our nature to be selfish. We always want the best for ourselves whether we know it or not. I see it with the customers I deal with at work a lot. Customer Service usually brings out the worst in people anyway. I think I tend to be selfish sometimes when it comes to having different options. I'll want to choose the best for myself since it'll be something that I have- whatever it may be.

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    1. Anonymous12:29 PM CDT

      Micah Chapman Section 11
      In my experience I don't think many people are naturally selfish.

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  67. Do you trust your own conscience and experience more than that of religious leaders like the Pope? Why? 441
    even though I come from a very religious family, I trust myself more than I would trust a religious leader. I'm the only one who knows what I can and can't do and I wouldn't follow a religious leader who has no idea of my personal experiences.

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  68. Logan Taylor Section 1112:14 PM CDT

    What are the symptomatic features of the world as Machiavelli knew it?

    What did Thomas Hobbes keep in his walking stick?

    What was the one detail that Machiavelli pointed out about the story of Jesus Christ?

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  69. Anonymous12:31 PM CDT

    1. I believe it is okay to lie, as long as it helps more people in the long run than it hurts. I believe it is in human nature to lie, and sometimes it can hurt, sometimes it can help.
    Section 11

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      Section 13
      Do you think that if the people figure out that their leader is lying, they would be able to trust him in the future?

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      Micah Chapman Section 11
      I think lying is a slippery slope. Once you start to lie it becomes hard to stop.

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  70. Madona Kozman2:52 PM CDT

    Section 13
    Are people fundamentally selfish, in your experience?
    In my experience, I haven't met many selfish people. The ones that I define as selfish would be those who get close to you for a reason or a favor.

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  71. Madona Kozman2:57 PM CDT

    Section 13
    https://youtu.be/w5MCaJJg-4E
    Here is a link that I found interesting about "A history of presidential lies" that is talking about when is the right time for a leader to lie to his people

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  72. Section 12

    COMMENT: Thomas Hobbes and Social Contract Theory:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Co6pNvd9mc


    COMMENT: Documentary about Machiavelli:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsMs-DuGy1o

    COMMENT: “Contractarianism”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Co6pNvd9mc

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  73. Anonymous11:43 AM CDT

    Section 12

    Does knowledge need foundations? Why or why not?
    - Yes, everyone's knowledge comes from a specific source in which they gained that knowledge from.Everyone is born with some type of knowledge but not to the extent of where you know everything, not even most is known. Everything that is learned while growing up comes from a source, which makes that the foundation of where that knowledge was attained.

    Are people fundamentally selfish, in your experience? Are you? Can selfish people change?
    - Everyone is selfish to a certain point, some more than others. Certain decisions one makes in life can come out as selfish and seem that way when you are only making a decision based on whats best for you. Many may see that as being selfish, but many may feel this is just a way of looking out for yourself first which doesn't necessarily mean you are being selfish. I don't see myself as selfish to a bad extent but i do feel that i look out for my best interest before others, but like i said that is in everyone. Selfish people can change but it depends, the only way a selfish person can change s if they want to and see in themselves that they are selfish to a bad extent. Though some feel that they come first and that may never change for some.

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  74. Are people fundamentally selfish, in your experience?
    Yes. People are naturally selfish,maybe not always in extreme cases but people will always think about themselves first before they think of the effects on other people.


    Do you agree with Machiavelli that it's okay for a leader to lie if he perceives it to be in the best interest of his people?
    No. Its not okay to lie in any circumstance. If theres a problem, the truth may be painful but a lie will only bring more problems.

    Section 13

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  75. What memorable hiking experience have you had? Tell us about it!

    My grandparents used to live in Jackson, Tn where they took me and most of my entire family hiking: sisters, parents, aunts, and uncles. It was fall time and I remember walking through various landscapes like densely wooded areas and then finally a large empty space surrounding by trees and leaves of red and orange. It was beautiful. I mostly remember that image. I also have a scar from that trip because my sister moved a tree branch out of the way and let it go so it whipped my forehead.
    Section 13

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  76. Cameron Ghalami
    Section 002
    1. What makes a philosopher a philosopher? Can anyone with philosophies be considered a philosopher?
    2. https://youtu.be/24zxK6iclIg
    3. https://youtu.be/IHcqIl8vT44

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    1. Anonymous12:39 PM CDT

      Micah Chapman Section 11
      I think anyone can be considered a philosopher.

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  77. Brandon Beech12:52 PM CDT

    DQ: Are people fundamentally selfish, in your experience? Are you? Can selfish people change?

    I personally believe that all people are fundamentally selfish. I think it is part of our human nature in order to satisfy our internal need for survival. Now, I would contend that either love or wisdom can trump this internal need and that selfishness is primarily a bad thing. I think I am selfish to some extent just like others. Many of us like to fool ourselves into believing we are not selfish until a situation approaches us that calls for such instincts. All people can change the extent to which they are selfish, by the standard objective interpretation, if one even exists.

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    1. Katelyn White, Section 13
      I agree completely with what you wrote, considering I wrote a similar response to this. I believe people make a conscious effort to overcome selfishness, and this can be caused by love or wisdom.

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  78. Brandon Beech12:58 PM CDT

    DQ: It's been estimated that the average social media user could read 200 books in the time they spend online. What would they gain? What would they lose? What's the right balance?

    I might estimate that this number could be much lower than realism. Any avid reader knows that as you read, your reading comprehension, speed, and effectiveness increase. As you improve in these areas, you can read at a much faster pace, thus more books are much easier to get through. Social media is a real issue. That is not to say that there is nothing to learn from social media at all as there is some value involved if we look for it. Most of us do just the opposite, wasting both time and energy that could be more useful for other tasks. I believe the right balance is contingent on the person. For some, limited use of social media in a disciplined manner can prove very effective, and for others, none at all is necessary.

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  79. Brandon Beech1:03 PM CDT

    DQ: Is there a sharp difference between writing well and thinking logically? Why do you think so many scholastic/medieval philosophers were poor writers? How can you become a better writer and clearer thinker?

    I do think there exists a distinct difference in the two, but to what extent one affects the other is another question. I believe you can be a great thinker, rich in ideas and innovations without being a great writer. On the same note, I believe that working on writing effectively can improve the thought process as a whole. While better writers certainly do not exclusively equal better thinkers, writing in itself in a passionate form can help allow simple ideas to become firm believes or avid condemnations. Reading is the key to better writing and writing can be an essential component in better thinking.

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  80. Section 13 Katelyn White
    Are people fundamentally selfish, in your experience? Are you? Can selfish people change?

    I do believe that people are fundamentally selfish because it shows with human instinct. In primitive times, there was no community. Animals are only concerned with themselves and within some species their offspring. So I believe it's human nature to look out for yourself as a survival tactic. However, I am aware of this within myself and make a conscious effort to not be selfish when I get a selfish urge to do something that benefits myself only.

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  81. Section 13 Katelyn White
    Does knowledge need foundations? Why or why not?

    In the nature vs. nurture argument, I am an extreme believer in the nurture side. I don't necessarily believe that most people are born inherently knowledgable, and most if not all knowledge comes from somewhere. Everything that we believe to be true has an origin of some kind of influence on us, even if it is hard to trace the origin.

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  82. Cody Maness Section 119:37 AM CDT

    It's been estimated that the average social media user could read 200 books in the time they spend online. What would they gain? What would they lose? What's the right balance?
    They may become happier, more fulfilled, and more cultured. They may also become out of touch with popular media, out of the loop when it comes to news, and not be informed about the lives of friends near and far. I think its best to find a balance of reading a new book at least every month while also looking at social media to be informed or even entertained during odd moments of the day.

    - Cody Maness Section 011

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  83. Cody Maness Section 1111:05 AM CDT

    Discussion Question Suggestion: In your opinion, do nice guys finish last?

    - Cody Maness Section 11

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