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Wednesday, October 30, 2019

Quiz Nov 13/14

FL 31-32; American Philosophy: A Love Story prologue (AP)

1. What percentage of Americans don't expect the 2d coming before 2050?

2. Who is Christianity's most prominent "blame-the-victims horror story-teller"?

3. What percentage of Americans believe in the devil?

4. What percentage of Britons said they had no religion (in 2012)?

5. What is the latest scholarly consensus about America's exceptional religiosity?

6. What did William James consider the profoundest of questions?

7. Those who are doubtful about the value of their own lives are said to have what kind of soul?

8. The holding of what two irreconcilable things is the basis for life's "poisonousness" quality?  

9. What was James's answer to "life's most difficult question"?

10. Who or what finally––and continually!––decides the meaningfulness of life?

Discussion Questions:
  • What would persuade you that a person you'd met was the Jesus? What would you say to him?
  • Would you worship, or even respect, a god who punished humanity indiscriminately with earthquakes, disease, and other "acts of god"?
  • COMMENT: "There is one very serious defect to my mind in Christ’s moral character, and that is that He believed in hell. I do not myself feel that any person who is really profoundly humane can believe in everlasting punishment." Bertrand Russell, Why I Am Not a Christian
  • Why are Americans so much more religious than Brits, Swedes, and Danes (for example)?
  • What makes your life worth living? Or any life?

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The Philosopher and the Thief

Trespassing in the library of a dead genius

By John Kaag

Dozens of times over the past four years, I’ve made the drive from my home in Boston to a long-forgotten library in the middle of New Hampshire, accessible only by dirt road and hidden behind White Mountain pines. It once belonged to William Ernest Hocking, the last great idealist philosopher at Harvard, and though it contains irreplaceable volumes, it was known until recently only to a few of Hocking’s relatives and one very fastidious thief. And me.

I had come to Chocorua, New Hampshire, in 2009, to help plan a conference on William James. But I’m not a particularly dedicated philosopher and in general bore easily, so I soon found myself elsewhere: specifically, considering the virtues of the Schnecken at a German pastry shop. And this is where I found, browsing the scones, a man of ninety, wiry and sharp, who introduced himself as Bun Nickerson. Nickerson moved slowly, like most old philosophers do, but unlike most old philosophers his hobble wasn’t a function of longstanding inactivity. Instead, he explained, it was from farming and professional skiing.

I’m normally hesitant to say what I do for a living — “I teach philosophy” is often prelude to awkward silence — but Nickerson found my profession intriguing, because he’d grown up in a little house on a corner of a philosopher’s land. “Doctor Hocking’s land,” as he put it. Today, philosophers have arguments, office hours, books, articles, committee meetings, and the occasional student. Few of us have “land.” Nickerson made Hocking’s sound impressive and permanent, like the proper realm of a philosopher king: one stone manor house, six smaller summer cottages, two large barns, and one fishing pond with three beaver hutches, all situated on 400 acres of field and forest. Most seductively, Nickerson mentioned a library. Getting to see it struck me as a very good reason to skip out on my conference-planning responsibilities, so I climbed into Nickerson’s pickup and we bumped our way up the hill.

Contemporary academics, as a rule, don’t have personal libraries worth talking about. They leave inboxes, not archives. And so they avoid a problem that nineteenth-century intellectuals faced in the twilight of their lives: What to do with an intellectual home after it’s permanently vacated? One solution is donation to a large institution. But when this happens the books are lost among the millions in the stacks, reorganized in a homogenized Library of Congress categorization that permits the easy finding of any particular book but destroys the unique integrity of the collection. To avoid this fate, writers would often give their libraries to like-minded friends and students. Some were lucky enough to place their entire collections with universities like Harvard. But William Ernest Hocking and his son Richard, despite repeated attempts, failed to be this lucky.

Born in 1873, William Hocking spent his teenage years in Joliet, Illinois, working odd jobs as a mapmaker and illustrator before entering Iowa’s College of Agriculture and Mechanical Arts (now Iowa State). Like many American philosophers, he didn’t initially intend to become one. He wanted to practice engineering. And this was his plan until the late 1890s, when he read Principles of Psychology, by William James, who hadn’t wanted to be a philosopher either. By the time Hocking read the Psychology, James was well on his way to founding a school of thought known as American pragmatism. Pragmatism holds that truth is to be judged on the basis of its practical consequences and its ability to enrich human experience. James’s pragmatism was just grounded enough to convince a would-be engineer that philosophy wasn’t a complete waste of time, and Hocking began studying philosophy at Harvard in 1899. He was one of the last students to work under the “Philosophical Four”: William James, George Herbert Palmer, Josiah Royce, and George Santayana, some of whom would later leave him their books. By the end of his life, Hocking, an avid collector, had acquired more volumes than he knew what to do with. He kept them in a non-winterized library in New Hampshire. After he died, his treasures were left to the mice and porcupines of the White Mountains.



William Hocking’s former library in Chocorua, New Hampshire 



William Hocking (1873-1966)


When Nickerson and I showed up, the Hocking library was abandoned. He explained that members of the family still spent time on the land, particularly in summer, but this was a brisk fall day. The library was a small stone house in the Arts and Crafts style, fronted by French doors and covered by a steeply sloping roof with two chimneys. I peered in through the glass and was immediately reminded of the opening scene of Goethe’s Faust (one of Hocking’s favorites, I later learned), in which Faust, surrounded by well-thumbed books, laments the fragility of human knowledge. In the words of a depressed William James, “All natural goods perish. Riches take wings; fame is a breath; love is a cheat; youth and health and pleasure vanish.”

I wanted nothing more than to go inside, but I’m sure I wouldn’t have violated Hocking’s sacred space without permission had it not been for the Century Dictionary that I could see through the window. First published in 1891, the Century Dictionarywas regarded by the critic H. W. Henshaw as “the most conspicuous literary monument of the 19th century.” It was a masterpiece of lexicography, running more than 7,000 pages. Some of the best minds in America had worked for years on this first edition, including one of the founders of American philosophy, C. S. Peirce. I’d always had a certain fascination with Peirce — the kind that makes you write a doctoral dissertation, and then, after the dissertation is finished, write a book on him. The son of a Harvard mathematician, Peirce had picked up his brother’s copy of Richard Whately’s Elements of Logic at the age of fourteen and breezed through. Despite being trained as a chemist and geodesist, Peirce would consider logic and metaphysics his lifelong calling. His papers in the Journal of Speculative Philosophy in the late 1860s would set the contours for American pragmatism for the next three decades. Dewey, James, and Royce all looked to him for inspiration and guidance; James tried to get him a permanent job at Harvard, but Peirce, a master of self-sabotage, foiled his friend’s attempts. Peirce never managed to fit in. He was always meddling, often quite effectively, in other people’s research. So he found part-time employment more suited to a polymath: writing entries for the Dictionary on astronomy, logic, mathematics, mechanics, metaphysics, and weights and measures.

I’d never seen a Century Dictionary before. I looked around for Nickerson, but he’d slipped off over the hill to revisit one of his old haunts. This isn’t breaking and entering, I thought. When doors are unlocked, it’s just entering.

Such rationalizations were probably akin to the thoughts of another man, a close relation to the Hocking family. This fellow had entered the library one day in February of 2007, while high on heroin, and proceeded to steal several hundred rare books — among them the first impression of the first edition of Hobbes’s Leviathan, published 1651 — which he shipped to his home address in Berkeley, California. Apprehended a year later, he told investigators that he had stolen the books in order to demonstrate to the family the importance of taking better care of them. But as the haul was worth more than a quarter of a million dollars, and as some of the books had already appeared on eBay, the law reached a different conclusion. The man went to jail, where I was not inclined to follow him.

Trespassing was easier than I could have imagined. The Dictionary’s cover was original — tan leather that had taken on a dark patina over more than a century of use — and the front page confirmed my suspicions. 1891. First edition. The pages were surprisingly brittle for a book just over 100 years old, a fragility born of enduring many seasons of freezing temperatures followed by warmer spells. Thawing out isn’t something books do with a great deal of grace. I took a look at a few random entries — “maid-pale,” “maid-servant,” “maieutic” — just enough to remember that this was a relic of a bygone age. I wondered which entries Peirce had written, since none of them were signed.

I looked at the shelf above the dictionary, at a long set of leather-bound volumes: the Journal of Speculative Philosophy, where Peirce had made his mark. It was the first run of the complete set, from 1867 to 1893. I wanted to see Hocking’s signature, so I slipped the first volume out. But it wasn’t Hocking’s name at all. In tight, compulsive script was written, “Charles S. Peirce.” As a pragmatist, I am highly suspicious of transcendence. But on that day, surrounded by the remains of philosophy, I began to believe in the reality of the unseen, in the sorts of things that James describes in his Varieties of Religious Experience. I began to believe that it was possible to come into direct contact with a reality that was long gone.

I spent the rest of the afternoon discovering James’s copies of Berkeley, Hume, Nietzsche, and Plato, most of them signed in a sprawling hand, “Wm. James.” Edmund Husserl’s signed copy of the Cartesian Mediations was being used as a doorstop (this little gem, if sold at Christie’s, could put one of my students through a year of university). And at the end of the day I ventured into the attic and discovered a letter from Walt Whitman to one of the Hockings’ relatives, John Boyle O’Reilly. This material was priceless and irreplaceable. And then there were the merely expensive volumes: first editions of Descartes, Hobbes, and Spinoza, as well as Hegel, Kant, and Malbranche. When I returned a year later, the most valuable item in the collection turned up: a first edition of Two Treatises on Government, without a name on the title page. Locke had initially published it anonymously.

Over the course of the next three years, the granddaughters of William Ernest Hocking allowed my colleague Carol Hay and me to lend a hand in saving the books. The rarest were moved to off-site storage. Today, most of the volumes are kept in a room in the archives of the O’Leary Library, at the University of Massachusetts Lowell. It’s isolated, but at least it’s dry, warm, and rodent-free. I hope it doesn’t remain isolated for long. UML is a small but up-and-coming school, and, thanks to the Hocking family’s generosity, it has unexpectedly acquired a rather large cache of philosophical masterpieces. I visit often to see them, under fluorescent lights. It always makes me a bit sad. I still think of the books in New Hampshire, just as I first found them — priceless but vulnerable, a bit like life at its best. I no longer have to trespass to see them, but some unpragmatic part of me wishes I did. Atlantic

115 comments:

  1. Marie Hussels H0111:00 AM CDT

    Weekly Essay 250+:
    What makes your life worth living? Or any life?
    My life is worth living because of the people in it and the dreams I have. Everyday I get up and I am happy to see my family and my lovely pets. I go to school to get a degree for my dream job. I see my friends who always make me smile.
    Even when I feel really down I still try and look for things that make my life worthwhile. Even small things are worth it to me. Whether it be feeding my pet fish or just getting to pet my dog I always try to find a reason to keep smiling.
    A life is always worth living even if there is great sadness in it. A person can live a happy life if they make themselves happy. Whether it be to go out and treat yourself to some good food or having a nice time hanging out with a loved one. There is always a reason for a life to be worthwhile.
    Sometimes I have felt worthless and like my life served no purpose for the greater good but I have come to realize that everyone has a purpose in life. Each day someone can make someone else happy whether that be listening to someone or just smiling at a person to show that you acknowledge their worth in this world. Life is too short not to enjoy every moment of it. While we cannot enjoy every single moment of it, it is important to find joy in as much as we can.

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    1. Kevin Hernandez Ovalle HO2
      The same point I made just in a different way, but great explanation and reasoning. every life is worth living.

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    2. Looking at ". A person can live a happy life if they make themselves happy,"
      what would you say to people with mental health issues that this is nearly impossible for?

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      Mental health issues make it tough. Depression and anxiety usually stem from distorted thought about one's self or the world. If you can challenge those thoughts, you can improve your mood and start working towards happiness.

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    4. What the true definition of happiness? if the presupposed material definition of happiness can bring released from our anxiety, then our society is different than what is it is today

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    5. I think what makes life worth living is a person's goal. If I have a certain goal in life, that will give me a purpose. In trying to attain that goal, I think life becomes worth living or meaningful.

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    6. Interesting talk:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5-yBjKKicA

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    7. Life is worth the living because if you don't believe in anything else then it is the only thing you will ever do so you might as well live it up

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    8. I agree that life is definitely worth living! The feeling of accomplishing something is amazing, and what’s the purpose with no goal?

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  2. Caleb McBride H03:

    Why are Americans so much more religious?

    I think that people in America are so religious because we are so secluded. European nations can travel freely throughout the EU and get exposed to all manner of views. However in the US we are pretty much sequestered with other people who have similar views to ourselves (give or take some exceptions), meaning that nothing ever challenges the views instilled in us by our parents and their parents and so on, generating a massive amount of belief and tradition that generates the US's obsession with religion

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    1. Kevin Hernandez Ovalle HO2
      Your explanation makes a lot of sense Caleb. you can see that the majority of Americans fall into either atheism or some branch or section of Christianity. I personally haven't been exposed to other religions or beliefs. I don't know in depth the concepts of other beliefs and just like you I think its because of the way we isolate ourselves from others and don't try to understand their point-of-views. Ever since the first Americans and throughout America's history you can see that Americans tend to dislike other religion affiliations and thus completely disregarded them as "unfit" and so many times we base ourselves off of "religious" beliefs and don't try to come to a point with others.

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      I think we're uniquely religious for the reasons Anderson states:

      We reject establishment, intellectualism, and we're keenly attuned to believing whatever we want as a right.

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  3. Would you worship, or even respect, a god who punished humanity with earthquakes, disease, and other "acts of god"?

    I would prefer not to worship a God that inflicts these methods of punishment on the entirety of humanity for the decisions made by a small portion of the population. This is considering I have a choice to or to not worship or respect this God. If there is empirical evidence to prove that an existential being, such as God, exists and I am powerless under His rule, I would have no choice but to live in fearful respect. It would influence me to persuade others to make decisions that would please God in order to not be afflicted with punishment myself.

    I would act selfishly. I would live in fear my entire life and stress myself out worrying about the thoughts and decisions of others. However, this would definitely be a catalyst for me to participate more politically, which is definitely something that would be different from how I live my life currently. But, considering I have a choice in what I believe in, why would I make the choice to live in constant stress?

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    1. Kevin Hernandez Ovalle HO2
      I really like your example Julia. I understand your point of view and and decisions you would make if you had to do this. Unlike you some would worship that god in order to stay protected or on the "good side" of that god. Others would try (and maybe fail or achieve) to overthrow that god, but in many examples from mythical and Christianity humans tend to lose to gods. I would probably do the exact same thing as you.

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    2. I would agree. What all powerful God would punish a world when he could snap a finger and punish just the few?

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      For me, I like to think that the notion of God punishing humanity extended from a need to make sense of the physical world. If we can divorce ourselves from the notion that there is a reason or meaning to events, we can see them for what they are: random events.

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    4. In my humble opinion, when calamity hits, instead of blaming the all powerful source, why don't we sit back look at the big picture of things.

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    5. Because humans are greedy and short sighted, we have short lives so of course we will focus on what can kill us immediately

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    6. I wouldn't say God has punished us by bringing these things about. Yes people die, but maybe by allowing something like that to happen, He returns certain people to Him. I think God does things purposefully, hoping that we learn and grow.

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  4. (What would persuade you that a person you'd met was the Jesus? What would you say to him?)

    I do not believe anything could convince me that I had met the Jesus. If he said he was Jesus, I would not believe him. If he walked on water or turned water to wine, I would write it off as a hallucination, that I had been drugged. Assuming that I was in a normal state of mind when this happened, I would ask him how he had done it, and then, assuming that he was actually Jesus and that all that is said about him is true, I would ask him how he feels about the unnecessary death to which his legacy has led (such as the Salem witch trials; though Jesus likely never said to burn people because you suspect they might be a witch, the trials were still products of Christianity).


    (Would you worship, or even respect, a god who punished humanity with earthquakes, disease, and other "acts of god"?)

    I would never respect anyone who allows rape to occur when they have the power to stop it. If I believed in gods, I would hold them to the same standards as I hold people. If an omnipotent being has knowledge that a tragic event occurs and that it would require virtually no effort on their part to prevent, then they are accountable for that tragedy.


    (What makes your life worth living? Or any life?)

    Our own choice determines whether our life is worth living. If I feel like my life is meaningless and no one disagrees, then for all purposes that is true. However, if any person says that my life has value, then it has value. Just like anything else, life is only worth the value we give it; there is no intrinsic property known as value within a life. We assign that value, just like we assign the value of gold or knowledge or cars or apples.

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    1. Kevin Hernandez Ovalle HO2
      very interesting point on Jesus. I too wouldn't be so quick to write him off as the real Jesus, but would question my current state. that's a very interesting stance to take if He was really Him.

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      That's an interesting point, Sam. I never thought of the notion of holding god's responsible for that which they have control. Similar to how people who stand by and do nothing during some preventable atrocity are partly to blame for inaction, shouldn't the same standard be held of omnipotent beings if they exist if they truly care for their creation?

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    3. Hi Sam, I think your view on things is quite interesting. I do think that it can be difficult to believe in the case of meeting someone a like to him, but to have him held responsible for things is something I never thought of.

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  5. Kevin Hernandez Ovalle HO2
    What makes your life worth living? Or any life?
    I guess this a question that all of us ask ourselves from time to time. What really are we living for? Is this worth my time and effort? I think all life is worth living. So far the only thing we know is this life, and although many claim that there is a life beyond this one we can’t take our chances on those claims and should just enjoy the time we have in this one. I think the things that make my life worth living are my personal ambitions, my values, dreams, and talents, and ultimately friends and loved ones. Although so of us might not have some of those, even if we have just one I think we should put our effort in what we have and strive to make the best for it. Of course I know that some people have it off better or worse than I do, but with a positive attitude we can change our situations little by little. In my life i have had many struggles even as a child. When i transitioned to my adolescent phase I didn’t understand that world at all and i thought that my present situation dictated my life completely and I wanted to give up on life, but with the help of friends and loved ones they made me see that there is more to life than what is currently happening in your life. Yes it might suck right now, but with perseverance and hope it can get better.
    That just might point of view. I know it might sound cheesy and lack reality , but if it worked for me it can work for anyone.

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    1. I definitely agree. Our mindset is truly what sets us apart from what we may see as a terrible life. If we are willing to change our attitude for a more positive position, we may see that life is worth more than what we may have previously thought.

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  6. answering DQ "Why are Americans so much more religious than Brits, Swedes, and Danes (for examp;e)"

    I think it goes back to our founding, the first people here were escaping religious prosecution. and a common religion seemed to unite early America so well that to be religious is also patriotic.

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    1. Kevin Hernandez Ovalle HO2
      I understand your point of view Chance. I too thought on how since the beginning of America’s founding religion has had a part in Americans actions. But since your saying that being religious is being patriotic does that mean all those who don’t follow any religion or the common one are unpatriotic?

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    2. I think he definitely is saying being religious is patriotic, however, being patriotic doesn't mean you have to be religious, and I agree that religion has been in America since its founding.

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  7. answering DQ "What makes your life worth living? Or any life?"
    well I think life is a miracle, the statistic the sperm that fertilized the egg that became you or me is roughly 1/14,000,000,000,000. and I was born healthy in the us in 1999, people have suffered for thousands of years progressing humanity so I can live life just fine, well worth living.

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      I agree, we're very lucky and need to make the most of it.Think of how much more likely it would have been for us to be born anywhere but the developed world.

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    2. That is a great point of view, we ourselves are practically miracles, so we should make the best of it, as we are lucky to be alive.

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  8. answering DQ "Would you worship, or even respect, a god who punished humanity with earthquakes, disease, and other "acts of god"?
    yes, I think people can be beyond bad, we all know humans can be evil. so if god wants to punish man for its crimes who am I to say god is wrong.

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    1. Who is God to punish all for the mistakes of a few?

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      This reminds me of how bitter a group would become if you punished them for the acts of a few (thinking of time in the military when one member misbehaved or broke the rules). It just makes people more jaded and disgruntled with authority. I'm assuming an all-knowing God would understand this and not use ineffective methods of disciplining his creation.

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    3. Who are we to question him? I'm not saying he is just for killing many through the mistakes of a few. But as a god he is beyond our understanding, there could be a plethora of reasons he is doing so, and if god really is omnipotent, there may or may not be a reason for him doing so, if he is responsible. We may never come to understand gods acts, therefore is it really our position to question whether or not he has the power or authority to do so?

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  9. What would persuade you that a person you'd met was the Jesus? What would you say to him?
    -Performing miracles. I would ask what to do.

    Would you worship, or even respect, a god who punished humanity with earthquakes, disease, and other "acts of god"?
    -No
    COMMENT: "There is one very serious defect to my mind in Christ’s moral character, and that is that He believed in hell. I do not myself feel that any person who is really profoundly humane can believe in everlasting punishment." Bertrand Russell, Why I Am Not a Christian
    -I would agree. I don't think an all powerful God could let this happen

    Why are Americans so much more religious than Brits, Swedes, and Danes (for examp;e)
    -We jump more into belief than others (bible belt)

    What makes your life worth living? Or any life?
    -Doing what you want to and therefore believing you lived your life fully.



    Alternate-
    -If God is all good, why would he hurt humans?
    -What does the devil actually do?
    -Why has God done "devil's work"
    -What do you credit in your life to God?
    - If God affects all, what is free will?
    - Why would God not take away free will to ensure the best for all?
    - How can God look at pain and suffering and do nothing?
    - Why are there so many denominations for Christianity?
    - Is there one that's correct?
    - How can different views lead to the same place.
    - Is being Jewish and Christian talking about the same God?
    - How can there be so many interpretations of the Bible?

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      I think if the person claiming to be Jesus raised some person from the dead - someone we can be sure is dead, say, Einstein, I'd be a believer.

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    2. If God is all good, why would he hurt humans?

      Sounds cliche, but he may have a plan. Maybe through destruction there is salvation, or he isn't responsible for it. Why must we attribute natural disasters and pain to God? We view him as omnipotent, but just because we think he is, doesn't mean he is. So maybe he isn't the one killing us.

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    3. I agree with you. Maybe there is a plan behind salvation:
      https://www.ligonier.org/learn/devotionals/a-sign-of-destruction-and-salvation/

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  10. Section 9

    Alternative DQ

    Define purpose in the context of James's "profoundest of questions." What is meaning, and can it be derived from purpose for an individual?

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  11. Section 9

    Good post by J.C.C. Smart on purpose and meaning:

    https://philosophynow.org/issues/24/Meaning_and_Purpose

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  12. What makes your life worth living? Or any life?

    To me what makes life worth living is momentary happiness, the feeling of finding true happiness in other people, building nostalgic memories, and experiences love. Those experiences make life worth living, no matter how bad or ill the situation is, if we have love, family, friends, etc, the worst of times seem not too bad.

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    1. Anonymous12:53 AM CDT

      I completely agree with you, life can be well past worth living, its the experiences we live through and make.I said the same thing basically, love is one of the greatest joys of love. Not just love for family, friends, pets, but also yourself and our world as well as all living things.

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  13. Why are Americans so much more religious than Brits, Swedes, and Danes (for example)

    They have had many years to disperse their faith, over the many years they haven't had the need to rely on god or any religious power, they can continue to exist without them. However, with America, when we were first forming, we were fighting a tyrannical super power. We were founding a nation and a brother of arms. When creating this nation we likened the victory to god, because of the sheer magnitude of what our ancestors have accomplished. Seemingly as though we have god to thank for our victory, and because we attribute our victory to him, we place god first in our country.

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  15. Would you worship, or even respect, a god who punished humanity with earthquakes, disease, and other "acts of god"?

    Tough question, honestly I don't really know if there is a god out there, and i don't know if i actually believe in or disbelieve in god. But i do know however, An entity who causes so much pain and misery on us, why would i like him? Yet, by definition of god, it is beyond my understanding, so should i really feel ill will towards such an entity? Maybe there was a good reason to why the so called "God" punished us, maybe we were killing our planet or killing each other. So then who is to say he is really just or evil? It is beyond our comprehension, as we are just mere mortals. Therefore, why should i hate something that which i can not understand? If i can not understand it, then I believe i must hold faith and confidence that he is doing good, that there is a plan for us out there. However, deep down there is no way I can tell, I can only hold faith that he is benevolent and omnipotent.

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  16. What would persuade you that a person you'd met was the Jesus? What would you say to him?

    If someone I met was really Jesus, i would be in disbelief until he could otherwise prove himself so, by performing miracles that undermine my knowledge in nature and the physical laws of the universe, only then will he be Jesus, because no other entity can do so.

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  17. "There is one very serious defect to my mind in Christ’s moral character, and that is that He believed in hell. I do not myself feel that any person who is really profoundly humane can believe in everlasting punishment."

    Weekly Essay: ~400 Words

    I've never thought about this in this way, but how do we know if it is in Jesus' control? Maybe, hell is something that just is, and therefore if it is naturally existent, he has to and will believe in it. Therefore, if he knows it is so, and it does exist, then he may be trying to lead us and save us from the road that will lead us to our demise in the fiery pits of hell. Why would his moral character be in question if he wants to save us from the road to hell? Although it is true, if he does believe in eternal punishment, that would hinder his moral character as a benevolent savior, however, if hell was indeed existent certainly, with or without Jesus, then his moral character wouldn't be hindered because he doesn't believe in it, but because it exists and he is leading us away from hell.
    Now lets say if he believes in it and it is uncertain if it exists or not, then in my mind his moral character would definitely be damaged, because if he is our savior, our protector, then why should he believe in eternal punishment for us? Is it not human to error or to sin? If it is human nature to naturally fail, why would he believe in eternal condemnation for sinners? If he is a savior why not help those who have failed to see their error, and to help them out of the highway to hell? Because just by the sole fact of believing in eternal punishment for sinner, but also being the savior of us sinful humans, is that not in itself a ironic twist? Or maybe there is a greater force trying to coerce us into Christianity by using the fear of immortal pain and suffering. Either way it is definitely a perspective to view, as it can be really vague on why the irony exist, maybe as a way to test ones faith in the lord? Or maybe even ulterior manipulation behind the scenes? No one can say for certain, but nonetheless it is definitely intriguing.

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  18. Would you worship, or even respect, a god who punished humanity with earthquakes, disease, and other "acts of god"?
    I would respect anyone who could create earthquakes, diseases, or any other acts on a large scale. At the same time, I would also be afraid. Anyone who could create largescale diasters would be respected and feared. In any case, yes, I would. God punishes who He sees as His children: us. As a Christian, I call God as my Heavenly Father. With calling Him my Father, I am deferring to His Word as wisdom. If I do something wrong (sin), I will be punished for it just as if my dad would punish me for doing something wrong.

    Why are Americans so much more religious than Brits, Swedes, and Danes (for examp;e)
    We were founded in a religious setting. Not only that, religion was the main reason people came to America along with gold. With other countries, religion was not their main goal. Because of this, America is bound to be more religious than other countries.

    What makes your life worth living? Or any life?
    My life is worth living, because I have a goal. My goal is to live life to the fullest everyday. Because of this, no matter if I am struggling, I will always be grateful that I am able to live another day.

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    1. DQ Questions:
      1) If you ever did meet God, what would be your first instinct? Would you question Him? Argue with Him? Or would you simply ignore Him?
      2) Is there ever a situation where life may not be worth living? How would you get out of that?
      3) We see many films out there today that shows people coming together in one instant. Do you believe people can become that close in that timespan?
      4) How often have you questioned whether life was worth living? How do you go from a negative mindset to a positive one?

      Quiz Questions
      1) Why did James overdose on chloral hydrate?
      2) At what age did James hit rock bottom?
      3) What book series sold seventy-five million copies in America?
      4) (T/F) It usually takes time to become rich even with God's help.

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      If I met god I would definitely question him, why were there so many wars, so much death and pain? Is he really benevolent, and if so why do we exist? Why do we continue to experience pain? If he could give me the knowledge to understand some of the most perilous questions, only then will I bow to him.

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  19. Abby Pittman section 6
    [DQ1]
    This is a very interesting question. I would probably expect a “miracle” to occur such as those that are in the Bible. I would probably ask him if he knew anything about me prior to meeting me, and I would ask questions about God and his life. I’m not completely sure how I would react because it would be such a strange occurrence; I would definitely question my sanity.

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  20. Abby Pittman section 6
    [DQ2]
    I don’t have a lot to say about this subject. I will say that I believe it’s not my place to question the decisions of God. We must also keep in mind that acts of violence are temptations of the devil that people have given into. It’s something that God doesn’t have complete control over, but I am certain that he empathizes with victims of violence.

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    1. However, in the question it says he punished humanity with disasters, therefore it is concluded that god is the one performing those disasters, and if he is the one punishing us, both just and unjust, why would I not question him? I will not obey a god of death who kills blindly, but I will one a god who has a reason.

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  21. Abby Pittman section 6
    [DQ4]
    Fantasyland discusses a lot about religion and it’s role in forming America. As many of the other commenters mentioned, I also agree that the way America was founded has a lot to do with the nation’s focus on religious beliefs.

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  22. Abby Pittman section 6
    [DQ5]
    There’s a lot of things I can contribute to making life seem worth it. It’s mostly small things like kind people, sunsets, warm weather, and music. These are the things that give me a reason to wake up in the morning. A lot of purpose can also be attributed to the fact that everyday is a new day to do things that I love and enjoy. I try to focus a lot on the simple things and the beauty of the world we are given.

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  23. Section 06

    What makes your life worth living? Or any life?
    There are a lot of things I want to do and need to to do. This is what keeps me going. I also have a lot of family that I need to live for as well.
    What would persuade you that a person you'd met was the Jesus? What would you say to him?
    I don't know how to answer this question except to say that maybe I would have this feeling that would let me know it's Him. I would say whatever is on my mind at that point in time. I can't know for sure what I would say right now.

    DQ Suggestion:Do you believe in the afterlife? If so, what do you think it will look like?

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    1. DQ Suggestion Answer:

      I don't think there is, but I do think the notion of it is great. I hope I am able be with loved ones until the end of eternity, but no matter how much I believe I can't bring myself to think there is in fact a after life.

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      I personally believe there is an afterlife! I think that it will be a very happy life, filled with happiness and what not.

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    3. Madona Kozman11:09 AM CST

      Section 13
      I also believe in after-life that will be a pay off for people who suffered a lot in life and kept being good people.

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  24. section 06
    Here is a link about people taking bribes to avoid hell in afterlife
    https://www.dhakatribune.com/business/2019/03/25/minister-urges-bankers-not-to-take-bribes-to-escape-hell-in-afterlife
    Here is a link about afterlife as well
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/15/realestate/real-estate-for-the-afterlife.html

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  25. Abby Pittman section 6
    Interesting article: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/25/science/female-spacewalk-canceled.html?action=click&module=Latest&pgtype=Homepage

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  26. Anonymous12:41 AM CDT

    What makes life worth living?
    The simple joys of everyday life makes it worth living. Love makes my world worth living the most, my love for my family and friends, as well as the love I carry for myself. Everyday I wake up thankful to be who I am and to have overcome all of the many situations that I have. A simple A or B on a test makes life worth living, all the places, people and educational opportunities to learn from makes life worth living. GOALS make life worth living. If you set a goal to achieve, everyday you will work towards that goal, when you achieve the goal it creates happiness and a purpose. All the small things in the world that we take for granted are worth living for. Family, friends and self-love are my main reasons for life being worth it. You can go through some of the worst situations if your surrounded by love and positive vibes the situations won’t seem as bad. Laughter makes life so much better, I literally can’t take a lot of my situations serious, unless it is dramatic. You have to make the best of your situations, no matter how hard it’s been, how much you want or do cry, life is worth living, just for the simple joys. Food is even a simple joy, A lot of people get happy including myself when I’m about to eat or eating. Knowledge is worth living for, it will always create new opportunities and will always give you something to accomplish. Knowing, Understand and loving yourself makes everyday worth living.

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  28. Anonymous11:11 AM CDT

    Joslyn Parker Phil 1030-009 294 words
    What makes your life worth living? Or any life?

    I think its different for everyone. Many may share the general idea of what, but details and the why's will differ. For me, I genuinely enjoy life. And even when I don't, I know that the feeling will pass. I want to know what becomes of my siblings (I'm the oldest and have 7 younger than I) and if they choose to have children I'd like to meet them. And the thought of abandoning my siblings takes me to a dark place - it won't happen. I do have dreams of my own, and I'm working towards a career that will be all my own, but at the core of me is my brothers and sisters. I'm building my future to set an example for them. My future is worth heading toward because there are people that I love and want to able to care for if needed. (and also we need to preserve the earth and teach future generations to care about it too, don't let the world become like Ready Player One where there are no trees or grass)
    There are many who don't enjoy life though, and I can't sit here and write and pretend like I know what they're going through or offer any real solutions. I don't understand at all. Someone very close to me thought that their life wasn't worth living and its devastating seeing someone go through that, it was the most painful experience I've ever had. Does there have to be something that makes life worth living? For many people there isn't and I think its okay to not want to live anymore. I mean, we have no idea what happens when we’re dead, so how we can say if not living is good or bad.

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  29. DQ: What would persuade you that a person you'd met was the Jesus? What would you say to him?
    He would have to be able to prove his supernatural ability to make that claim. I would ask him why he created a religion that could be interpreted in such a variety of harmful ways and how he could be considered good in the face of that.

    DQ: Would you worship, or even respect, a god who punished humanity with earthquakes, disease, and other "acts of god"?
    No. A god who causes punitive punishments for unspecified reasons is not a god worth worshiping.

    DQ: COMMENT: "There is one very serious defect to my mind in Christ’s moral character, and that is that He believed in hell. I do not myself feel that any person who is really profoundly humane can believe in everlasting punishment." Bertrand Russell, Why I Am Not a Christian
    I agree with this. It is not loving or good to believe in hell and to claim that a loving and good god created and now controls hell is oxymoronic.

    DQ: Why are Americans so much more religious than Brits, Swedes, and Danes (for example)?
    It seems that we have stronger imaginations and it is just built into our blood. We seem to be less skeptical once we have found a foundation than people from other countries.

    DQ: What makes your life worth living? Or any life?
    Doing good for other. Helping as many people as possible. Basically utilitarianism.

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    1. I think Jesus' love would persuade me that He is Jesus. I think God's love is the greatest quality. Love is the basis for many virtues. If there is love, then other virtues exist.

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    2. Very interesting article:
      http://frjoeshomilies.net/05-17-09.html

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  30. Alternate Quiz Questions:
    1) Who wrote the 1984 bestseller "Approaching Hoofbeats: Horsemen of the Apocalypse?"
    A: Billy Graham

    2) What series on novels about the end times by Tim LaHaye and Jerry B. Jenkins came out after the Gulf War and was a massive bestseller?
    A: The "Left Behind" series

    3) What view earth's beginning was considered almost unthinkable by the New York Times in the 1970s, but "downright respectable" by the 1990s?
    A: Creationism

    4) Who is the prosperity gospel preacher whose net worth is said to be $50 million?
    A: Joel Osteen

    5) Who claimed on "Fresh Air" that the Japanese emperor had sex with a demon appearing as the sun goddess every day?
    A: C. Peter Wagner

    6) What fraction of Americans admit that they never pray?
    A: One in nine

    7) What correlates with lack of religion in most countries, but in America seems to correlate with strong religious beliefs?
    A: "Prosperity and sense of security"

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  31. Anonymous12:03 PM CDT

    Joslyn Parker Phil 1030-009

    Would you worship, or even respect, a god who punished humanity with earthquakes, disease, and other "acts of god"?

    If there is a god it doesn't cause earthquakes. We know what causes earthquakes and can even track their origin. It doesn't cause diseases either. I just simply don't believe there is a god. However, if there was a god that purposefully and magically caused natural disasters, then no. Hopefully the human race would ban together and take it down.

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  32. Anonymous12:09 PM CDT

    Joslyn Parker Phil 1030-009

    COMMENT: "There is one very serious defect to my mind in Christ’s moral character, and that is that He believed in hell. I do not myself feel that any person who is really profoundly humane can believe in everlasting punishment." Bertrand Russell, Why I Am Not a Christian

    I think this is a reasonable argument against Christianity.

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    1. Madona Kozman8:35 PM CST

      Section 13
      Why would you not believe in hell and only believe in heaven where there will be a good life ever-after!

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  33. Discussion Questions
    1)Would you worship, or even respect, a god who punished humanity with earthquakes, disease, and other "acts of god"?
    I personally would not, since, there are many other ways to punish the human race who sins a lot.
    2)What makes your life worth living? Or any life?
    I think the people who love us and people who we love make life worth living.


    Alt Quiz questions:
    a)Who was the owner of the library in the middle of New Hampshire, accessible only by dirt road and hidden behind White Mountain pines?
    b)When was Hocking born?
    c)Where was Hocking born?
    d)Who’s the author of Prinicples of Psychology?
    e)What holds holds that truth is to be judged on the basis of its practical consequences and its ability to enrich human experience?
    f) Who were the Philosophical four?
    g)When was the first Century Dictionary published?

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    1. 1030-10, Posting for Jesse Pohl

      a)William Ernest Hocking
      b)1873
      c)Joliet, Illinois
      d)William James
      e)Pragmatism
      f)William James, George Herbert Palmer, Josiah Royce, and George Santayana
      g)1891

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  34. Anonymous12:30 PM CDT

    Joslyn Parker Phil 1030-009

    On proving a god's existence...
    https://centerforinquiry.org/blog/proving_gods_existence_is_impossible/

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  35. PHIL 1030-009
    Alternative Quiz Questions:
    1. Who came out with a millennial prophecy in the 1960s?
    2. What types of works were popular at the turn of the millennium?
    3. What does the Southern Baptist doctrine avoid describing?
    4. What did the Southern Baptists and other evangelical denominations believe about the Antichrist and the millennium?
    5. What does old-earth creationism attempt to reconcile?
    6. How does the Discovery Institute feel about the six-thousand-year-old earth idea?
    7. What do Horror-story Christians insist about disasters and accidents?
    8. What did Puritans regard as a sign from God?

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  36. Anonymous12:57 PM CDT

    Joslyn Parker Phil 1030-009

    Alternative DQ:
    1. What makes the christian god more believable than other gods?
    2. When you think of god, or a god, what does it look like?

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    1. DQ #1:

      I think for most people the Christian religion is so we'll constructed and fool proof. There are not many, or none of loopholes/contradictons. It is one of the longest living religions and using love, kindess, etc as it's main focus. It is also deeply rooted in sciences and infrastructure since the dawning of mechanics and ingenuity. I think that's what makes the christian god so much more popular compare to others, it is it's history in development in the modern society.

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    2. There's more hard evidence supporting the story of Jesus and the Christian God than any other religion.

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  37. 1030-10 Posting for Jesse Pohl
    1) What makes your life worth living? Or any life?
    I live to experience things. The experience is what is worth it.

    2) What would persuade you that a person you'd met was the Jesus? What would you say to him?
    I am very skeptical. I probably shouldn’t be super skeptical if it really was Him. His actions because he only spread love and never forced anyone to follow or love him. Or id have to see him do some big miracle which isn’t a very good answer. I would ask what is your purpose for living. Plus a lot of other questions I have.

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  38. PHIL 1030-009
    1. Would you worship, or even respect, a god who punished humanity with earthquakes, disease, and other "acts of god"?
    It would depend on his/her reasoning. If these acts were to help someone else or if there was a much larger reasoning in which people simply can not comprehend while on Earth, then yes, I might.

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    With the changing of the season and the transition into summer, I find my focus shifting from beyond the classroom. With the ever taunting draw to spend all my time outside now that the weather is finally nice, I start to question where my priorities have fallen this semester. Should I have spent more time enjoying life, and put less of an emphasis on academia? How will I ever know how to spark that perfect balance? I look at philosophy as a way to unlock my own happiness, but despite taking a philosophy course this semester I have spent less time truly happy during these last weeks than normal. I spent upwards of 13 hours a day slaving towards my degree a, but I find that to be truly dissatisfying. Most of my peers celebrate with open arms, but I cant seem to get past how hard this winter has been and how far I have come. For most this would be cause for happiness, but I have found myself in deep self reflection that leaves me utterly confused about the direction of my life. I don't think that most philosophers would condone this almost pointless dedication towards my goal of a 4.0 in exchange of simple happiness, but I find myself stuck in almost out dated commitments. I have yet to find any philosophical ideas to help with this feeling, but if anyone has any reading that might help I am all ears.

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    DQ: I feel that I am too skeptical to ever believe that I had met Jesus but if I did I would like to ask him what the point of an eternal afterlife is.

    No I would not.

    I think we are much more religious because we have always been told we could be, and for many we have been groomed to be from a young age. It is engrained in our culture.

    I think that any life can be measured as worth living if you increase the quality of life of others. I apply this idea to my own life but others are welcome to construct their own thought of a good life to their own.

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  41. Sect. 10
    What would persuade you that a person you'd met was the Jesus? What would you say to him?
    If a person demonstarted supernatural powers to me, then that would indicate that he or she was Jesus. I would ask him questions like: are there aliens and will Heaven always be open and running?

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  42. Sect. 10
    Would you worship, or even respect, a god who punished humanity with earthquakes, disease, and other "acts of god"?
    I would respect a God like that and worship him out of fear of not being punished.

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    1. Madona Kozman11:11 AM CST

      Section 13
      I personally still worship God not out of fear but out of love that he sacrificed his only son for all humanity to save us from our sins.

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  43. Sect. 10
    COMMENT: "There is one very serious defect to my mind in Christ’s moral character, and that is that He believed in hell. I do not myself feel that any person who is really profoundly humane can believe in everlasting punishment." Bertrand Russell, Why I Am Not a Christian
    I think that if someone believes in eternal life, then they must balance the equation and believe in eternal death.

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  44. Sect. 10
    Why are Americans so much more religious than Brits, Swedes, and Danes (for examp;e)

    I think because these countries and older, more wiser, more open, and more scientific.

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    1. Madona Kozman10:18 PM CST

      Section 13
      I personally think that America became less religious because of how we are given the freedom to either have a religion or not other than the other countries where there is less freedom.

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  45. Sect. 10
    What makes your life worth living? Or any life?

    We may only have one chance of living so its totally worth living. One never knows what can happen in life, so it is very exciting.

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    1. Madona Kozman10:16 PM CST

      Section 13
      It is also important to have goals and a purpose to make life really worth it.

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  46. Section 12

    What would persuade you that a person you'd met was the Jesus? What would you say to him?
    I'd probably just greet him as normal. I would probably be taken back too.

    Would you worship, or even respect, a god who punished humanity with earthquakes, disease, and other "acts of god"?
    Can't say I would. I don't really believe in a higher power, a deity.

    What makes your life worth living? Or any life?
    I think my life is worth living, and any life. I think you can get through anything, and life is so precious and beautiful. I can't wait to see where I am going to be in the next ten years.

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  47. Section 13

    DQ: Would you worship, or even respect, a god who punished humanity with earthquakes, disease, and other "acts of god"?

    I find it hard to respect anyone that intentionally inflicts pain on others, on the innocent. I see no reason why I wouldn’t hold a god to the same standard, or even a higher standard for that matter.

    DQ: COMMENT: "There is one very serious defect to my mind in Christ’s moral character, and that is that He believed in hell. I do not myself feel that any person who is really profoundly humane can believe in everlasting punishment." Bertrand Russell, Why I Am Not a Christian:

    I agree with this completely. There doesn’t seem to be a point to hell. Punishment for the sake of punishment for all eternity, why would a higher power that believes in redemption and forgiveness want that? It doesn’t make any sense.

    DQ: Why are Americans so much more religious than Brits, Swedes, and Danes (for example)

    I believe it’s because religion is far less organized here in the US. Literally anyone can start a “church” that follows whatever interpretation, rituals, and traditions they choose to. Most other countries have much stricter standards for what qualifies as a church or follow more traditional denominations. Also, a lot of the American preaching revolves around being special, exceptional, or chosen in some way, which ties closely to how many American view their country compared to the rest of the world. A viewpoint that has become a vital part of many people’s identities; they can’t imagine it wouldn't be true and will fanatically defend that viewpoint.

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  48. 13
    What would persuade you that a person you'd met was the Jesus? What would you say to him?

    If he turned my water to wine.. short of that I don't believe anything would be able to convince me.

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  49. 13
    Would you worship, or even respect, a god who punished humanity with earthquakes, disease, and other "acts of god"?

    Easiest discussion question yet. Absolutely not.

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  50. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcZ44kQphlo
    13

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  51. Would you worship, or even respect, a god who punished humanity with earthquakes, disease, and other "acts of god"?
    This is a tough proposal considering I am a Christian. But I wouldn't worship a god who continuously punishes their people just for their name's sake. If these punishments occurred for a necessary evil, then I would have respect for them but I still wouldn't worship for giving us these punishments.

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  52. Why are Americans so much more religious than Brits, Swedes, and Danes (for example)
    I think it comes from the time of the Pilgrims. Pilgrims came over to escape religious persecution in England, so there has always been a strong sense of religion imbedded in the first immigrants. And as time continued, the religion did as well. They left Britain to pursue their own religion so as people grow, their religion grows with them.

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  53. What makes your life worth living? Or any life?
    My life is worth living for many reasons. One reason is my dog. It sounds dumb but I love my dog with my whole heart. It makes me happy getting to see him every morning when I wake up and every night when I go to sleep. I also live my life for my enjoyments. I like music, I like watching tv, I like cooking. it's small things like this that makes my life worth living.

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    1. Ruj Haan12:05 PM CST

      Section 13

      Wanting to live because of your dog is not dumb, we all have our own definitions of happiness or joy. For some that maybe hiking Mount Everest and for others it maybe being with family, friends, or pets. I definitely agree that the small things make life worth living.

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  54. Anonymous12:23 PM CST

    What would persuade you that a person you'd met was the Jesus? What would you say to him?
    Probably healing powers and miracles. I would probably ask him what really went down in the Bible.

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  55. Anonymous12:25 PM CST

    Would you worship, or even respect, a god who punished humanity with earthquakes, disease, and other "acts of god"?
    No that's extremely cruel and honestly there are humans with better conscience than that. There is nothing just in death.

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  56. Logan Taylor Section 1112:50 PM CST

    Alt Quiz Questions
    Who worked odd jobs as a mapmaker and illustrator before entering Iowa’s College of Agriculture and Mechanical Arts?

    Where is William Hocking's Former Library Located?

    What Book caused Pierce to "make his mark"?

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  57. Section 12

    DQ: What makes your life worth living? Or any life?

    What makes my worth living are the goals and aspirations that I have, as well as the close relationships in my life. I am always trying to better myself and the world around me, so every day there is something for me to get out of bed for and work on. Also, spending time with my loved ones is really important. I want to be there for them through the thick and the thin.

    COMMENT: "There is one very serious defect to my mind in Christ’s moral character, and that is that He believed in hell. I do not myself feel that any person who is really profoundly humane can believe in everlasting punishment." Bertrand Russell

    I agree very much with this. I am not a christian, or religious at all for that matter, in part because I cannot get behind the idea of an eternal hell. The idea of a hell becomes especially problematic when it is believed that the lack of knowledge of or belief in the “one and only true church” can give you an eternal sentence, when there are an endless number of churches that claim to be true. It seems as though a loving god who allowed for repentance wouldn’t do such a thing.

    DQ: Would you worship, or even respect, a god who punished humanity with earthquakes, disease, and other "acts of god"?

    I would not. Natural disasters are absolute tragedies. The idea that a god may be the one to cause them, is disturbing to me.

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    1. Section 13

      I agree very much with the quote also. I grew up in a rural area where everyone believed in God, and there isn't a lot that keeps me from doing the same. I do not try to disprove that there is a higher power, I just do not think human beings have the power to know. But I do not and will not believe in an eternal hell, especially that people can be sent there because of who they love, how they were raised, and what they believe.

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  58. Section 13
    "What would persuade you that a person you had met THE Jesus? What would you say to him?
    - I will know when I have met THE Jesus. There is no way you could simply mistake him for someone else, or meet him without knowing. If i live to see the rapture, everyone in the world will know when they have met Jesus.

    Who you worship, or even respect, a god who punished humanity indiscriminately with earthquakes, disease, and other "acts of God"?
    - God does allow these kinds of disasters to happen, and I do worship him, and I always will. Bad things are going to happen to us and we are going to wonder why, if God is so gracious, he would let such terrible things take place. I have wondered that before, but I believe that God has a plan for everything.

    What makes life worth living? Or any life?
    - The people I surround myself with, as well as my faith in God is what makes my life worth living. I have wonderful relationships with the people in my life, and I serve an awesome God.

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  59. Section #12 - Victoria Cowan
    My presentation is on William James and his views on pragmatism. Pragmatism is the act of measuring the truth of an idea by its practical outcomes on an individuals life and its impact on an individual's behavior. James would use experimentation to test religion and found that it would benefit someone's life. James justifies religion by the positive difference it made in the people he would study. He was not the Father of Pragmatism but was the next generation of contributors to the theory. James was a medical student that later branched into psychology. He wrote the forward thinking book "Principles of Psychology" and was a huge progressive in the theory of functionalism.

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  60. Ruj Haan12:08 PM CST

    Section 13

    Would you worship, or even respect, a god who punished humanity indiscriminately with earthquakes, disease, and other "acts of god"?
    Everyone has a reason for doing what they do, so before saying yes or no I will need to learn more about his or her reasoning.

    What makes your life worth living? Or any life?
    The environment I surround myself, being around the people I like and doing things I enjoy. None of us are certain as what will happen to us in the future, so why not getting the best out of it while we can now instead of regretting in the future.

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    What would persuade you that a person you'd met was the Jesus? What would you say to him?

    This question is interesting to me because I've never thought about it. I don't try to disprove that the disciples were following Jesus; however, I don't think there is a single thing that a person on the street could do to convince me that they are Jesus. Even acts of magic or phenomena would be more likely to convince me that they come from a darker source than Heaven. It would take divine intervention changing my mind for me to be convinced that Jesus was standing in front of me.

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    1. I agree. It would be really hard to believe anyone they were the Jesus. Maybe if they only preformed acts of healing miracles then i would consider the thought

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    Why are Americans so much more religious than Brits, Swedes, and Danes (for example)?

    I believe it is because Christianity is more functional for America's government and economy. Capitalism is only affective if people are content with being poor, which is why Christianity helps when blessing the weak. Religion inspires people to be okay with the life they are living on Earth because they have a new life waiting for them when they die, which makes them a lot more cooperative while they are on Earth.

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  63. What would persuade you that a person you'd met was the Jesus? What would you say to him?
    I replied to an earlier comment about I would only consider him as the Jesus if he preformed acts of miracles of healing but If i did believe him,I dont think id be able to say anything

    Would you worship, or even respect, a god who punished humanity indiscriminately with earthquakes, disease, and other "acts of god"?
    - yes. if the god created the universe then he made the laws and he can act accordingly to the laws he created. so I might as well worship him if he created me and everything around me.
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  64. Anonymous11:44 AM CST

    Why are Americans so much more religious than Brits, Swedes, and Danes (for example)?
    I think its because America was an escape for religious zealots and alot of those beliefs linger today.

    - Cody Maness Section 11

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  65. Anonymous11:48 AM CST

    "There is one very serious defect to my mind in Christ’s moral character, and that is that He believed in hell. I do not myself feel that any person who is really profoundly humane can believe in everlasting punishment." Bertrand Russell, Why I Am Not a Christian
    I agree! The idea of Hell is entirely sadistic, and it is worrying to think that some people would wish that fate on another being, no matter their deed.
    - Cody Maness Section 11

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