Pretty quickly we figured out we do not agree with Pascal's statement.... We came to the mutual agreement that his thinking was extremely flawed and that even if someone decided to follow this way of thinking they are not only trying to fool themselves but also God.
We started discussing the bible and whether or not incest was correct or not. Yeah that was the conversation. Some said yes as long as no children were made, others said no.
So here was our discussion today.
Also midget porn was mention. I don't really remember how on earth that came about.
What if they are not trying to fool anyone? What if the person truly wanted to believe and tried to believe. Would that still be considered fooling God? Or do you think that, even if they've if did not believe, they would get points for trying?
ReplyDeleteIt seems to me that they are trying to fool themselves into believing into a God. But in the situation you described, No I don't think that were trying to fool God.
DeleteI still am not sure how you went from pascal to incest, this is what happens when I leave the group. All chaos let loose.
ReplyDeleteWha... smh.
ReplyDeletePascal's Wager:
IS based on a 50/50 probability. However, there is not a 50/50 chance god exists. The evidence would suggest the probability of god's existence is very slim.
Even if it were a 50/50 chance the idea that if you simply conformed your behavior to that of a believer's behavior you would eventually assimilate or fool yourself or god. The idea you can fool god I will not dignify with a response. If you've only fooled yourself into thinking you believe, then you don't believe. And of course, imitating behavior does not make you a believer.
This post was super short and didn't want so spend a lot of time shooting and editing to make a really short point. Maybe if I get bored this weekend.
About the tangent topics... we finished discussing Pascal really quickly so we moved on to morality and discussed things that gave people their "yuk factor" (as much as I despise that term). Incest was brought up as being okay in the old testament, but immoral now. So we just had a discussion clarifying that point of view lead to arbitrary morality, so we had to decide if the bible was immoral in promoting incest or if it was actually acceptable now. I challenge anyone to give a good argument for why two consenting adults who are related by blood cannot engage in coitus so long as no child is created. (Under this scenario you may not use the argument that you simply risk creating a child... lets say neither person has the biological equipment necessary to produce children because their reproductive means were removed by surgery). The midget thing was kinda related...
Don't know how to embed videos into comments but just thought this needed to be posted.
ReplyDeleteJimmy Carr - Incest Joke
http://youtu.be/Kqggj7VN160