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Monday, November 5, 2012

Autodidactic Section 14 Group 1 (WITTGENSTEIN)

Wittgenstein was a very unique type of philosopher. He professed that all of life's many characteristics possessed deep origins. He believed that everything had deep roots beyond its surface. He also went against the conventional thinking of an individual's thoughts and mind to be  unique to that specific individual. In my opinion, Ludwig Wittgenstein did not like secrets. What I took from the reading was that he wanted everyone's "tips" etc. to be publicized, in order to better serve all people so that everyone could "understand" philosophy. My post might not make a lot of sense to someone who isn't familiar with the Wittgenstein reading, but then again, Ludwig was quite cooky and complicated himself.

Questions:
1. How did Wittgenstein describe language?
2. How do you feel about the theme 'bewitchment by language'?

6 comments:

  1. I am just going to post here since no one from my group has posted yet, and I won't have time later to post.

    I feel that vagueness can also carry with it some form of relatively. For example, I think a lot of people are tall because I am quite short. They may not consider themselves tall unless they are comparing themselves to me. Prior to this reading, I had not considered how truly vague so many concepts we have are; however, a lot of these concepts are shaped by common sense. Common sense though is often shaped by society and the culture surrounding each society.
    Fuzzy logic also confounds me. If something is true then by definition it cannot be false and vice versa; however, I do feel like there is a middle ground for many things such as being bald...thinning. Wouldn't it be better to just find a more specific term than to quarrel about whether it is not bald or not not bald?
    T or F: Williamson believes in fuzzy logic?
    How would you solve this vagueness problem?

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  2. Journey Button10:06 AM CST

    Good morning everyone!

    Wittgenstein seemed to contradict himself a few times or maybe he just didn't have any real solutions. I feel like he saw some general flaws in societal thinking but didn't quite know how to fix them. The idea of language restricting our thinking is true (in my opinion). A lot of times, in other languages, you'll have multiple ways of saying one (american) word, you have words or ideas that are used for variations of one word so that you aren't stuck with one all-purpose word. I feel like that would be the best solution. We can't cut language it is our most powerful resource and we can't have private languages (which Wittgenstein states as well) because that would defeat the entire purpose of language but maybe we should vary or degrees of certain terms and have a less generalized idea of our language and our society.

    See you guys soon!

    Journey

    Factual: Where did Ludwig Wittgenstein hold his lectures?

    Discussion: How do you think we could solve our language dilemmas?

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  3. Brandon Carter12:05 PM CST

    Hi group

    We will be discussing the philospoher Wittgenstein. He was a pretty interesting character. He seemed to focus alot on language and problems in our society. I agree with some of his views on language, but I do feel that language is a very important part of our societ. Language and the way that we communicate is a part of what makes humans superior to other animals. Therefore I believe that no matter how many flaws there are with language, it is still very much neccesary for us to utilize language.

    F: What did Wittgenstein feel that language does to us.

    D: Do you think that there is a problem with our use of language.

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  4. Paul Montgomery12:12 PM CST

    According to Wittgenstein, all 'games' have many things in common. False.

    Could poetry and philosophy be considered the same?

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  5. Courtney darsey12:34 PM CST

    Hi-
    Wittgenstein had some very good points about language. Whenever he would first meet people, they believe he was a genius. Wittgenstein didn't believe in books, but only but only about solving problems in the classroom. He believed ethics and religion are beyond our limits of understanding and we can't talk about them with meaning, so we should only think about them with our minds. H didn't believe all languages worked the same way, and there are many different things to use language for. Also, he stated we did not have our own private language.

    Factual - what was Wittgenstein's religion?
    Discussion- what did he claim was the cause of philosophical confusion?

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  6. Katie Brown1:02 PM CST

    Hey yall, hopefully this comment will post.. Ive been having a hard time getting my comments to show up! I think that it may have something to do with my computer, but I think (hopefully) I fixed it :)

    Factual question: True or false, Wittgenstein does not believe in words to describe sensations.
    Discussion question: In your opinion what is the greatest strength in Wittgenstein's philosophy... greatest flaw?

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