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Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Sec19 Grp1: On Socrates

 (Look! I included the section and group number.)

Socrates' three most notable statements in the text and how our group perceived them today are as follows:

"Does being deceitful count as being immoral?"
We determined that as long as it furthers a positive goal set forth by the "helper" (person being deceitful), whether or not the other believes in its validity, it is acceptable. The language here is loose, but what this basically means is that the people performing the deceit may do so if it adheres to their moralistic principles.

"How can I be the wisest man in Athens when I know so little?"
Put simply, those who are wise are, in actuality, not wise at all.
This seems to hold up in both Socrates' time and modern times. Anyone can claim to be wise in a specific field, but in other fields they are not so confident. And since there exist specializations in every field, even respectable, highly intelligent individuals may not know as much as someone in a lesser position. Say, a neurosurgeon and a nurse, for example. Each know things the other does not.

"Life is only worth living if you think about what you are doing."
This holds both a degree of truth and of falsity. It is true in that rash, impulsive decisions often lead to rash endings that could have been avoided, but it is false in that risk-taking is essential to our growth as human beings. If we sit and ponder a mental list of pros and cons in which the latter outweighs the former, we're probably not going to do whatever it is we wanted to do before we thought about it, and sometimes, if we stop to think about it, BAM! it's too late and the decision has been made for us. Too much thinking is detrimental, but some is nice. After all, spontaneity is a much more positive word than randomness.

4 comments:

  1. Jeremy Brooks6:21 PM CDT

    I can't help but ask when it's put in such words as "--performing the deceit may do so if it adheres to their moralistic principles" who's "moral principles" are acceptable? And what criteria can be involved in determining the acceptance of someone's moral code?

    Factual Question: What "school of thought" does Pyrrho generally adhere to?

    Discussion Question: How do you think you could balance Pyrrho's Philosophy with everyday life in modern times?

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    1. Ben Raper11:27 AM CDT

      Discussing your discussion question, I believe that to some degree you could apply his Philosophy to every aspect of your life. Some you should apply it more to, but use it a little before any actions you do and you can better achomplish what you intind to do.

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  2. Ben Raper11:22 AM CDT

    I really agree with the quote "Life is only worth living if you think about what you are doing." because that seems to be the only way to get anywhere in life without being minipulated or controled. If you think about what you are doing you choose how things pan out in your life, you are not just doing what just comes up and wishing you had done it different. Preparing for what happens is the best way to have your way in my opinion.

    Factual Question: Does Pyrrho's way of thinking different than the normal thinking of people of his time?

    Discussion Question: Do you think that Pyrrho's calm state of mind real or do you think that he disiplined hiself to not show when he panicked in order to have to apperence of always being calm and poised.

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  3. I agree as well with the statement that the unexamined life is not worth living, for if you just go through the motions of living without any thought as to why you are doing them, then there really is no point in doing them in the first place. It brings you one step closer to peace of mind.

    Factual Question: How does Pyrrho's philosophy hold up to real life encounters?

    Discussion Question: Does Skepticism still hold water in today's society? Where do we see it?

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