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Wednesday, February 22, 2012

Freud and Bergson Section 11 group 2



Sigmund Freud (1856-1939) He believed that we often do not and cannot know what is going on in our own minds; that we are basically irrational, necessarily unhappy creatures. This new idea created problems for philosophers.  However, Freud’s ideas about the mind suggest we can define the science of the mind.  The idea that every little thing we do can be explained remains a question for psychologists.   Freud added the idea of repression to the topic of explanations of the unconsciousness. He thought much of what we repress is perverse yet psychically active.  His explanation was that human conduct by its very nature is based on vile, murderous, incestuous motives. Basically, human beings are not at all naturally good. Sexual perversion was everywhere, precariously repressed. Unhappiness was inevitable, and civilization itself was the cause.
Henri Bergson (1859-1941) believed analysis is not truly possible, it is inexpressible. The idea of facts, things, and sensations do not exist or have a place in philosophy. He viewed change as a whole, not as one big change already predetermining more simple changes. He believed the old philosophy distorts our experiences. He also thought philosophy should focus on events as movements in a process of realization. He believed concepts are motionless and one-sided. This was his idea of duration; the reality of change. The stuff of life itself is change.  

Questions
1.   Although Sigmund Freud believed we cannot determine a rational formula for the way our minds function, in what ways did he believe we could scientifically analyze the brain? Answer: In terms of neurology, energy circuits, and language of physics.
2.      Do you agree with Freud, that we cannot know what is going on in our minds? Do you agree that human conduct by its very nature is based on vile, murderous, incestuous motives? And that these motives are repressed into our unconsciousness and therefore determine each decision we make?  

3 comments:

  1. Anonymous10:55 PM CST

    I agree with Freud to an extent, I feel that their are some things that we as humans just can't help to think about; however, their is many things that we think about and the reason we think about it, is because it is something that has recently happened to us or something we have experienced. I feel that we make decisions on what we feel is the right thing to do, not because of unconcious motives. The decisions a person makes are based on how they feel or think about something and what they feel is the right thing to do.

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  2. I agree with Rachel except one thing: People do what they want to do rather than what they feel is right.

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  3. I agree with both of you more or less. I'm more of a Freudian thinker. I don't think that my nature is based on vile, murderous, incestuous motives but some people do have this very gruesome nature. I think that it does have something to do with our subconscious. It takes a lot of little things to go bad in your life for you to be maybe be turned into a murderer. But this is just my opinion.

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